540e PTO speed poll

[Timbo]

Pub question- you have a 6cyl 160hp tractor fitted with 540 & 540e pto speeds, and a range of implements rated for 540rpm input speed.

Which would you use to be most efficient & productive, that is safe for both implement and tractor??

 

[Mur Huwcun]

Power harrow and rear discharge I would think would be 1000rpm? Proper 160hp will run a combi baler on 540E let alone just a baler. Not a lot of 540 jobs with 160hp you can’t do in economy

 

[Magnus Oyke]

you're only supposed to put 65hp through a 540 shaft iirc. If your tractor can turn the 540e shaft and make enough power and not wilt when the load increases, use it for what ever you fancy

 

[yoki]

We run the hedge trimmer on 1000 speed, equates to about 1100rpm for 540 and seems well up to the job.

120hp tractor.

 

[Boysground]

My 5m topper is 1000 speed it will run fine on 1000e. Have used 540e for fertiliser. Would fill my old sprayer in 1000 speed, tractor on idle was 400 pto so nice and quiet while i was concentrating. Tanker will run on 540e but field has to be flat and dry

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[Blue.]

The only time I ever use 540 is starting the tub mixer after it’s sat full for a while.

 

[feilding]

What about 1000e. Very good for 3 m flail topper and 10' mower conditioner. Been using since late eighties. MF 3000 series had it as standard. And 61 series/ 62 series. All had 4 speed PTO. As does my Deutz fahr.

 

[Dave W]

A better understanding of pto speeds would save a lot of machines.
Most simply aren’t built to handle 160hp.
Grass tackle in particular, most machines will only have drive lines rated at 100hp

Had a customer in yard couple weeks ago. He was berating his JD front mower.
Bed has split for second time in 5 years.
When I pointed out it was basically a Taarup 307 bed from the 1970’s and he was putting 200+hp through it he was quite shocked

 

[Timbo]

A better understanding of pto speeds would save a lot of machines.
Most simply aren’t built to handle 160hp.
Grass tackle in particular, most machines will only have drive lines rated at 100hp

Had a customer in yard couple weeks ago. He was berating his JD front mower.
Bed has split for second time in 5 years.
When I pointed out it was basically a Taarup 307 bed from the 1970’s and he was putting 200+hp through it he was quite shocked

Can you explain "putting 200+hp through it " please

 

[Dave W]

Can you explain "putting 200+hp through it " please

It was in the front of a 200+ hp tractor working flat out

 

[Sharpy]

A better understanding of pto speeds would save a lot of machines.
Most simply aren’t built to handle 160hp.
Grass tackle in particular, most machines will only have drive lines rated at 100hp

Had a customer in yard couple weeks ago. He was berating his JD front mower.
Bed has split for second time in 5 years.
When I pointed out it was basically a Taarup 307 bed from the 1970’s and he was putting 200+hp through it he was quite shocked

There's a horrific lack of mechanical sympathy out there.

 

[Dave W]

There's a horrific lack of mechanical sympathy out there.

There is. And the same people are probably the ones that come on tff slating a product when in fact it’s been abused

 

[Sharpy]

There is. And the same people are probably the ones that come on tff slating a product when in fact it’s been abused

Exactly. There's an awful lot of kit out there designed for a 90hp tractor being abused behind 180hp.

 

[Cocomac]

I’d only use economy for lightweight jobs, fert spreading, spraying, rowing up, hedge trimmer. Use 540 on tanker but tractors only running at 1500 rpm no need to have a vac pump turning harder than about 350-400 rpm. Topper uses less diesel when run flat out that when run in economy for some unknown reason? Balers and mowers need the power. Use to be recommended with welger balers to run them in 540 with the throttle full open at 650 rpm.

 

[Timbo]

It was in the front of a 200+ hp tractor working flat out

40hp to drive the thing along at 15kmh
60hp to the rear mower
60hp to the front mower

Surely?

 

[Wellytrack]

40hp to drive the thing along at 15kmh
60hp to the rear mower
60hp to the front mower

Surely?

Yea but you will have 200 horse of torque reserves not 60.

 

[Wellytrack]

Apart from a Tedder and hedge cutter I don’t have much that I’d use 540e in, mowers and baler both need all the grunt I can provide, so too the tanker and dribble bar so it’s full fat 540 for almost all.

 

[AnyOldName]

40hp to drive the thing along at 15kmh
60hp to the rear mower
60hp to the front mower

Surely?

40 + 60 + 60 = 200?

 

[Boohoo]

For the people who are running rakes in 540e, what speed pto speed are you running the rake at? I usually rake at 400 pto rpm which would only be 1100 or 1200 engine rpm in 540e. Doesn't give much in reserve for hills. Also don't you find the rake starts with a bang in higher pto gears?

 

[Horn&corn]

Very rarely use 540. Pretty much everything in 540e unless very steep hill or very full mixer. Anything that’ll cope at 1000 will use that instead.