750a gauge wheel soil problem

[Tractor Boy]

I’ve got this problem with my two year old drill. I know a few of the wheels have been bunged up inside the gauge wheel and disc but not all of them. However, most have got soil now between the tyre and the split rim, to the extent the tyre is starting to be pushed off. I have always kept the 11 bolts that hold the two wheel halves together tight but feel I now have to split the wheels to clean them out before any damage is done.
@Simon Chiles told me over the phone that they always get soil inside but unless the tyre is deforming by such a build up it’s not necessary to clean them out, but this is the case with quite a lot of mine.
Would the spoked wheels still get this problem? Is it another case of the drill designed to work in drier less clay like soils and a new design needed for wet heavy clay?

 

[Louis Mc]

I have spoked wheels they are a big improvement

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Needham urethane tires don't move at all.

 

[Big-Al]

Mine are doing this, i am toying with the idea of replacing with spokes, seems the soil gets stuck to the disc then builds up and eventually pushes the rubber off, need to get on it soon as been a bit lazy over the winter, need to get out of the cave.

 

[SilliamWhale]

What would happen if you put expanding foam in the wheel and cut them off flush?

 

[Tractor Boy]

What would happen if you put expanding foam in the wheel and cut them off flush?

It’s not the mud that somehow finds itself inside the two halves of the wheel that’s the problem. That can stay there.
The problem is the soil that somehow forces it’s way between the tyre and the wheel. I’ve spoken again to Simon Chiles today and we are wondering if firstly I have had a little too much pressure on the firming wheel when the soil is a bit wet, especially when drilling beans very deep. Also possibly the gauge wheel gap should’ve been narrowed down to almost nothing to stop any soil building on the side of the disc when the soil is wetter than ideal.

 

[SilliamWhale]

It’s not the mud that somehow finds itself inside the two halves of the wheel that’s the problem. That can stay there.
The problem is the soil that somehow forces it’s way between the tyre and the wheel. I’ve spoken again to Simon Chiles today and we are wondering if firstly I have had a little too much pressure on the firming wheel when the soil is a bit wet, especially when drilling beans very deep. Also possibly the gauge wheel gap should’ve been narrowed down to almost nothing to stop any soil building on the side of the disc when the soil is wetter than ideal.

I'm on lighter stuff than you but for me if they block its generally too wet. What for me ameliorates it is - plenty of cover (ie no soil) and I think maybe less pressure. For me if they fill up on the first round its too wet and I won't win but also I do keep a narrow gap ie one washer

 

[Big-Al]

This problem last autumn i never thought the ground was to wet, thought it was just right for drilling and the clay content may be the problem, or as silliamwhale said the more greenery the better they clean, which was true when i drilled in to a two year grass ley, but saying that want a hassle free drilling time.

i had an email before Christmas from mudsmith

Mudsmith Gauge Wheels
Retail: $135 USD per wheel x 36 wheels = $4860 USD at an exchange rate of £1 to $1.42 is £3422.53 or £95 each plus the carriage which i haven't checked but will be a pallet at least and vat will be due when delivered on total cost to HM revenue, if i remember rightly as i paid for it on a chaser bin imported, they wouldn't let it leave the dock in Liverpool until we paid the vat.

I have not priced JD spoked gauge wheels yet unless someone can enlighten me before i get a price.
Regards

 

[Robert]

I have not priced JD spoked gauge wheels yet unless someone can enlighten me before i get a price.
Regards

2018 JD Parts Catalogue price is £131.67 but i presume there'd be a discount on that.......

 

[Big-Al]

2018 JD Parts Catalogue price is £131.67 but i presume there'd be a discount on that.......

jeezz better be retail, as i think the mudsmiths are a tougher gauge wheel. may see what carriage is to the uk and get a discounted price on the JD ones
Regards

 

[Louis Mc]

We wouldn’t have drilled and beavs last year without spoked wheels, ground wasn’t wet just sticky, they came up perfectly afterwards

 

[H.Jackson]

We wouldn’t have drilled and beavs last year without spoked wheels, ground wasn’t wet just sticky, they came up perfectly afterwards

Did you sort the problem with the rims breaking?

 

[Clive]

This problem last autumn i never thought the ground was to wet, thought it was just right for drilling and the clay content may be the problem, or as silliamwhale said the more greenery the better they clean, which was true when i drilled in to a two year grass ley, but saying that want a hassle free drilling time.

i had an email before Christmas from mudsmith

Mudsmith Gauge Wheels
Retail: $135 USD per wheel x 36 wheels = $4860 USD at an exchange rate of £1 to $1.42 is £3422.53 or £95 each plus the carriage which i haven't checked but will be a pallet at least and vat will be due when delivered on total cost to HM revenue, if i remember rightly as i paid for it on a chaser bin imported, they wouldn't let it leave the dock in Liverpool until we paid the vat.

I have not priced JD spoked gauge wheels yet unless someone can enlighten me before i get a price.
Regards

You pay the vat and any duty at port landing / customs clearance but you can then claim it back if your vat registered on your next claim

Zero duty on direct drill parts but there will be a charge for port handeling and customs clearance etc

 

[Louis Mc]

Did you sort the problem with the rims

Did you sort the problem with the rims breaking?

no outcome to it yet.....

 

[Farmer Roy]

John Deere standard rims are sh!t anyway
Put on some spoked gauge wheels, JD supply them now, or go Mudsmith or Boss or any of the other aftermarket manufacturers

Put these scraper rings on your gauge wheels. Not only will they solve every mud blocking issue ( if it still blocks, then just go home, it's still too wet ) but because of the way they mount over the wheel & tyre, no mud can force its way between them

 

[Farmer Roy]

http://www.bossagparts.com.au/epage.../Shops/bossengineeringptyltd/Products/436-960

 

[cows sh#t me to tears]

Not sure how these ones would go eitherhttp://rfm.com.au/gauge-closing-wheels.php