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Naomi Long is a major plunge in the quality of alliance leadership. She's only out to score points bump up her own profile. David Ford would have been above all of that.
A significant day for democracy in Northern Ireland
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Naomi Long is a major plunge in the quality of alliance leadership. She's only out to score points bump up her own profile. David Ford would have been above all of that.
Boohoo
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Her attitude seems to have infected the whole party. Only their stance on Brexit is keeping their vote up.
Isnt she double jobbing as an MEP?
Ok shes about to be made redundant there but should she not have resigned as an mla?
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I was going to make just that point regarding what is probably an inevitable border pole, although it is a good few years away yet imo. To make a decision like that on a 50% plus one basis would be grossly irresponsible and I would argue undemocratic, which begs the question what is true democracy, do we really have it at all?
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
She resigned as an MLA on 1st July 2019. There was some surprise that her husband was not co-opted in her place
The whole show should be made redundant. Cut their wages and theyll soon agree they could even work FOC for 1000 days as a goodwill gesture
Boohoo
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She'll be standing in East Belfast at the next general election. If it's before Brexit and she wins she'll have to move someone into her MEP seat. How democratic!
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Presumably she will want the MLA seat back when she is no longer an MEP.
Boohoo
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They do a bad enough job when they're getting paid without trying to get them to do something for nothing.
Boohoo
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I'd say so, although she probably isn't even thinking about it because she thinks she's going to be the next MP for East Belfast.
Be interesting at next general election to see if DUP lose seats due to their involvement with brexit
Boohoo
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It's difficult to call at the moment. As long as they don't lose North Belfast, I don't like the idea of no MP.
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Welcome to life west of the Bann.
Presumably there will be pacts in the "at risk" seats.
Boohoo
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Hopefully there will be and hopefully Aontu can steal a few SF votes.
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- Beragh, Co Tyrone, Northern Ireland
Alliance seem to be taking a proportion of nationalist votes west of the Bann, In my DEA (Mid Tyrone) Alliance vote effectively doubled with no campaigning in the area beyond postal leaflets, they seemed to have focused most of their effort on the Omagh Town DEA. Was interesting to note the number of transfer from the SDLP, Anti Gold Mine campaigner (effectively another nationalist) and the ex sdlp independent. Roughly based on transfer the Alliance vote in the DEA was about 80% nationalist.
Two unionist candidates only got around 40 votes on transfer when the Alliance chap was eliminated in the count process. Similar jump in the Alliance vote in the other rural DEA. While they also obviously got a candidate elected in Omagh.
Two unionist candidates only got around 40 votes on transfer when the Alliance chap was eliminated in the count process. Similar jump in the Alliance vote in the other rural DEA. While they also obviously got a candidate elected in Omagh.
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Which is what has made the B word negotiations such a shambles thus far. Lack of widespread and decisive support for it, lack of joined up and shared thinking on the purpose of it, and lack of determined leadership on the basis of common and established goals. Same dangers for a border poll.
Democracy is far from perfect. It does always mean that the majority gets their way, and someone won't be happy.
Boohoo
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Our local remoaners crying to the EU along with our terrorist MEP did more harm to the Brexit negotiations than anything else in my opinion. Only last week as Boris was trying to get a deal, Martina was running around Brussels with a report titled "The EU and Irish Unity"
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The failure of David Cameron to allow planning to be undertaken for the referendum to deliver a leave result.
A NIO that appears to operate under the maxim we must not do anything that annoys/offends Dublin and/or Irish nationalism are all contributory facotors.
A NIO that appears to operate under the maxim we must not do anything that annoys/offends Dublin and/or Irish nationalism are all contributory facotors.
I would say that Stormont is effectively dead - killed off by Westminster and not the local parties.
Firstly the Assembly decisions on same sex marriage and abortion were over ruled and introduced by Westminster.
Secondly the principle of cross community voting had been abandoned in the Brexit deal.
Both of those have torn up the Belfast Agreement. So what is the point in local MLAs returning (especially when one community wont get involved).
Abandoned the devolution project, it has failed.
Firstly the Assembly decisions on same sex marriage and abortion were over ruled and introduced by Westminster.
Secondly the principle of cross community voting had been abandoned in the Brexit deal.
Both of those have torn up the Belfast Agreement. So what is the point in local MLAs returning (especially when one community wont get involved).
Abandoned the devolution project, it has failed.
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The strange irony is that Stormont was brought back into being in the Belfast agreement almost entirely to please republicans and nationalists. Yet they are the ones blocking it from sitting.