Accidental self injection of footvax

[cotswoldcs]

Has anyone else done this with Footvax and what was the outcome?

I accidentally jabbed my thumb whilst vaccinating our ewes yesterday. I don't think I actually injected any fluid but it caused my thumb to bleed impressively and has now swollen and is numb and throbbing. I have been to the local doctor who sent me to the hospital who advised me to go to Bristol for further examination. I don't really want to go but will do if necessary. I understand the biggest risk is the mineral oil contained in the vaccine which according to the data sheet:

Accidental injection/self injection may result in severe pain and swelling, particularly if injected into a joint or finger, and in rare cases could result in the loss of the affected finger if prompt medical attention is not given.

I certainly have the severe pain and swelling but don't much fancy the loss of the affected finger!!!

 

[Walterp]

The bit about oil is exactly right, and a lot more dangerous than you'd perhaps think - farmers have lost fingers, hands or arms because of hydraulic oil entering a cut, which causes progressive gangrene. It's why we always keep a roll of fabric plaster in the FA box for ANY cuts, especially in Winter when handling spools and valves.

Don't put it off - you can't farm sheep easily with only one arm.

 

[milkloss]

I believe they have to slice it open to release any potential bubble of oil.

I didn't think hydraulic oil itself was dangerous when spilt on a cut. It's the high pressure injection of oil when a hose bursts or waving your hand over a pipe trying to find a pin hole leak that's bad. Fabric plaster is not going to stop a 300bar liquid needle is it?

 

[d.iainm]

I believe they have to slice it open to release any potential bubble of oil.

I didn't think hydraulic oil itself was dangerous when spilt on a cut. It's the high pressure injection of oil when a hose bursts or waving your hand over a pipe trying to find a pin hole leak that's bad. Fabric plaster is not going to stop a 300bar liquid needle is it?

Yeah it is High pressure oil of any kind that is dangerous. That is why you should wear gloves an googles if you are working or testing high pressure systems.

 

[d.iainm]

Has anyone else done this with Footvax and what was the outcome?

I accidentally jabbed my thumb whilst vaccinating our ewes yesterday. I don't think I actually injected any fluid but it caused my thumb to bleed impressively and has now swollen and is numb and throbbing. I have been to the local doctor who sent me to the hospital who advised me to go to Bristol for further examination. I don't really want to go but will do if necessary. I understand the biggest risk is the mineral oil contained in the vaccine which according to the data sheet:

Accidental injection/self injection may result in severe pain and swelling, particularly if injected into a joint or finger, and in rare cases could result in the loss of the affected finger if prompt medical attention is not given.

I certainly have the severe pain and swelling but don't much fancy the loss of the affected finger!!!

I would get to the doc there asap better a wasted journey than a lost limb I know which story I would rather tell people about later.

 

[llamedos]

Has anyone else done this with Footvax and what was the outcome?

I accidentally jabbed my thumb whilst vaccinating our ewes yesterday. I don't think I actually injected any fluid but it caused my thumb to bleed impressively and has now swollen and is numb and throbbing. I have been to the local doctor who sent me to the hospital who advised me to go to Bristol for further examination. I don't really want to go but will do if necessary. I understand the biggest risk is the mineral oil contained in the vaccine which according to the data sheet:

Accidental injection/self injection may result in severe pain and swelling, particularly if injected into a joint or finger, and in rare cases could result in the loss of the affected finger if prompt medical attention is not given.

I certainly have the severe pain and swelling but don't much fancy the loss of the affected finger!!!

it could do with irrigating to make sure no oil left, better safe than loss of thumb. No doubt the hard brigade will say otherwise, but it aint their thumb they may loose. Get it sorted.

 

[Filthyfarmer]

Does Not take much. Chap that works for me just scratched his hand with the needle when using footvax, didn't think anything of it at the time until woke up in the middle of the night with severe pain and swelling and took himself off to A&E. Like above, get it sorted.

 

[Baling Hay]

Get it sorted ASAP!!!!!

My Great Uncle lost his finger when a hydraulic hose burst and the oil went straight through his finger! They removed it at hospital even though it was a tiny tiny amount.

 

[Thick Farmer]

Just put a lamb castration band around your thumb and it will drop off in a few weeks.

 

[JohnGalway]

Well, you might lose and arm, but sure look on the bright side, you won't go lame now.

Get it seen to

 

[milkloss]

Nasty! Done some googling try this:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2532970/#!po=38.8889

Get it looked at?

 

[Walterp]

I believe they have to slice it open to release any potential bubble of oil.

I didn't think hydraulic oil itself was dangerous when spilt on a cut. It's the high pressure injection of oil when a hose bursts or waving your hand over a pipe trying to find a pin hole leak that's bad. Fabric plaster is not going to stop a 300bar liquid needle is it?

I understand that the poisonous effect is caused by the oil, regardless of how it enters the flesh.

 

[Global ovine]

This happened to a Southland farmer (NZ) about 20 years ago when a ram he had injected, in a race full of rams, suddenly jumped up behind him, forcing the needle into his forefinger. He got the full shot! His finger swelled and partly split. Doctors were going to amputate the finger. The farmer rang his vet who explained the situation with the oil (the problem) and the vaccine. The doctors took the vets advice, opened up the finger and scraped as much oil as could seen out of the finger. After 6 months the finger was back to normal function.
The upside; that farmer's experience was well reported. About that time most ram breeders had adopted tougher policies on footrot now including DNA testing. Footvax is one vaccine that vets hold very little of now as the demand has fallen away as sheep became more resistant.
The lesson; breed away from the problem and the need to vaccinate (and the risk of such accidents).

 

[JD-Kid]

I understand that the poisonous effect is caused by the oil, regardless of how it enters the flesh.

has to be injected in to the flesh not in an open cut burst hose etc etc not just coming in to contact if just by contact there would be no farmers weekend spanner men etc etc with any arms left

i would get it checked out tho

ummmmmm two resons i can think of why demand dropped did not work very well and high % of sheep condemed at works for inject marks and that rases a point why don't sheep get gangrene ??

 

[Woolgatherer]

An Irish vet once missed the horse he was meant to be giving a flu jab to and gave me the full dose straight into the a***e. Didn't lose any backside, but on the plus side I rarely get colds and never get flu.....

You must go to the docs though, a bit of inconvenience not worth losing bits of yourself for. Good luck

 

[a.birt]

I dabbed my knee with a neddle one day I was injecting sheep with covexin 8. My knee stiffened totally up in 6 hours. Got intervenous and oral antibiotics along with 4 nights in hospital very lucky not need an operation to take the knee apart to clean and rebuid it. I never got any stuff below the skin it was the dirt of the sheep that caused it...

 

[JD-Kid]

had the odd near miss with all kind's of vax's etc but i know 5 in one vax i just need to scrach my self with the needle and the eye's roll back funny thing is cataus have the same afect roses gorse splinters etc etc no probs must best be something in them

i can recall years ago guy had a cattle pour in back pack leak out of action for a long time he was realy crook pays not to chance it some people react in diffrent ways to others

not sure but one injection uses peanut oil as a carryer anyone reacting to peanuts could have a reaction think it's iodine injection but not 100% sure on that

 

[neilo]

Has anyone else done this with Footvax and what was the outcome?

I accidentally jabbed my thumb whilst vaccinating our ewes yesterday. I don't think I actually injected any fluid but it caused my thumb to bleed impressively and has now swollen and is numb and throbbing. I have been to the local doctor who sent me to the hospital who advised me to go to Bristol for further examination. I don't really want to go but will do if necessary. I understand the biggest risk is the mineral oil contained in the vaccine which according to the data sheet:

Accidental injection/self injection may result in severe pain and swelling, particularly if injected into a joint or finger, and in rare cases could result in the loss of the affected finger if prompt medical attention is not given.

I certainly have the severe pain and swelling but don't much fancy the loss of the affected finger!!!

Any news @cotswoldcs?

 

[cotswoldcs]

Sorry for the delay - I'm doing fine and recovering thanks. I went to Bristol Frenchay and they decided not to cut my thumb open (thankfully). I had an X-Ray which didn't show anything to worry about and was sent off with hand in a sling. I was given antibiotics which has helped with the swelling and infection. It's been a wet weekend here so have been at home playing with the kids and making a good recovery. I hope to have full functionality back in my thumb in a couple of days.

I've jabbed my finger with Ovivac and Heptavac in the past but this gave by far the worst and most painful reaction. I'm glad I got it sorted and wouldn't recommend Footvax to anyone!!!

 

[Philip Watkins]

..... I had an X-Ray which didn't show anything to worry about........

x-rays won't show soft tissue damage, they're only really good for bone.