AGRICULTURAL DEFENCE RESOURCES THREAD PART 1

[DaveGrohl]

Are single global warming potential impact assessments adequate for carbon footprints of agri-food systems?

The vast majority of agri-food climate-based sustainability analyses use global warming potential (GWP[100] ) as an impact assessment, usually in isolation; however, in recent years, discussions have criticised the ‘across-the-board’ application ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[skye @ bofin]

I invite you all to have a look at the NCS project. The ambition of the project is to increase pulse and legume cropping in arable rotations to 20% across the UK (currently 5%). In addition, up to 50% of imported soya meal used in livestock feed rations can be replaced with home-grown legumes. We are in need of representation from the livestock side and people to get involved with the feeding trials. Its main aim is to enable UK Farming to bring about a reduction of 1.5Mt CO₂e per annum or 54% of the maximum potential for the industry.

We have created a knowledge-exchange platform called PulsePEP which will shortly be available however, you can sign up to be involved with that here. Members of the PulsePEP are offered free tickets to attend our workshop on 11 September in Peterborough. This event will look at securing enough information to decide on what trials will take place in year 1of the project. There will be talks represnting the livestock side with McArthur Agriculture. Secure your tickets here.

 

[DaveGrohl]

@skye @ bofin
Could you remove this post please as it’s got fekk all to do with this thread, in fact it’s precisely the sort of misinformation that needs exposing.
@Bald Rick
@Chris F
Delete please?

 

[Tom @ BOFIN]

@DaveGrohl I think it's a shame you feel it's OK to react in this way to the post @skye @ bofin included in this thread. When @devonbeef started the thread, the stipulation made was a call for "content which you feel can help and be used by others in the defence of Agriculture" I can only assume you made a hasty decision on whether the content was relevant without reading first what it is about.

The project is farmer-led. It is public funded. It will pay direct to farmers a total of £370,000 for those farmers who wish to get involved and carry out on-farm trials to establish and reinforce the science behind what this thread appears to have set out to achieve. @skye @ bofin has highlighted the first opportunity for farmers to come together to achieve this.

Perhaps if you could explain precisely why you feel @skye @ bofin has posted "precisely the sort of misinformation that needs exposing" she can make an informed decision about whether it would be a good idea to delete the post. My feeling, as a farmer, as someone with 25 years experience in farming technical communications and as the founder of a farmer-led network (for which Skye works) that works night and day to improve prospects for farmers, is that you have been unnecessarily rude and harsh with your post.

 

[DaveGrohl]

@Tom @ BOFIN
That's your opinion. Harsh? Rude? Apologies if you feel that way. I may have gone over the top with "misinformation". While the project clearly has some merit it is out of place on this particular thread. We spent months trying to get a proper resources thread that could be used by members and ended up with this sticky thread, which wasn't ideal in any way, but better than nothing. Your project should be elsewhere on the forum, as I see it's the case that you've posted elsewhere.

Why do you object to removing this single post? I'm not entering into discussion though as this thread is supposed to be a non-discussion thread. You either get this or you don't. Either way, remove it please. Look again, and you'll see I asked politely the first time.

 

[thesilentone]

This thread is going to take a bit of absorbing.

The multitude of agenda's out there has made the waters very, very murky.

If we take the first graphic: Fossil CO2 has accumulated because we have exceeded the ability to absorb it !

Is that statement true ?

Has anyone checked ?

What are annual global CO2 emissions ?

What, when, how, why, where do we absorb it ?

How much is absorbed by each means ?


How many tree's are in the World ?

How much CO2 (on average) does a tree absorb ?

Do the figures balance ?

Has anyone checked ?

Trying to apply logic to a political agenda is like farting against thunder, corner them up, and they run for the hills.

Sorting through the positive/negative spin/PR surrounding UK agriculture requires the skills of marketing experts, the ace card we hold, and that is the land/soil that sustains us all, and that is where the story starts, and ends.

 

[thesilentone]

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jobs.fwi.co.uk

 

[Old apprentice]

Money's new job

 

[C.J]

This thread is going to take a bit of absorbing.

The multitude of agenda's out there has made the waters very, very murky.

If we take the first graphic: Fossil CO2 has accumulated because we have exceeded the ability to absorb it !

Is that statement true ?

Has anyone checked ?

What are annual global CO2 emissions ?

What, when, how, why, where do we absorb it ?

How much is absorbed by each means ?


How many tree's are in the World ?

How much CO2 (on average) does a tree absorb ?

Do the figures balance ?

Has anyone checked ?

Trying to apply logic to a political agenda is like farting against thunder, corner them up, and they run for the hills.

Sorting through the positive/negative spin/PR surrounding UK agriculture requires the skills of marketing experts, the ace card we hold, and that is the land/soil that sustains us all, and that is where the story starts, and ends.

According to NOAA , ( the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration ) 4% of the annual increase in CO2 is manmade and 96% is natural.

 

[holwellcourtfarm]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1828051X.2023.2221696?scroll=top&needAccess=true&role=tab

A thorough academic summary of the bias against meat.

 

[delilah]

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/1828051X.2023.2221696?scroll=top&needAccess=true&role=tab

A thorough academic summary of the bias against meat.

That needs going on another thread, I don't want to break house rules by giving it a kicking here.

 

[Skimmer]

The government take the environmentalists as the experts on the countryside and treat us like idiots.
We are the experts on the countryside and the NFU need to put this over rather than pandering to the public with red tractor.
This would certainly help to regain membership.

 

[DaveGrohl]

The Methane Chronicles: Plus why you can’t discuss methane without discussing hydroxyl radicals

I was recently on a Zoom call conversation with a few other people to talk about methane. I did most of the talking during this conversation. That call was also recorded for one other person who wa…

lachefnet.wordpress.com

 

[C.J]

Monbiot’s soap box is located at the peak of Mount Stupid.

 

[DaveGrohl]

Cessation of grazing causes biodiversity loss and homogenization of soil food webs

There is widespread concern that cessation of grazing in historically grazed ecosystems is causing biotic homogenization and biodiversity loss. We used 12 montane grassland sites along an 800 km north–south gradient across the UK, to test whether ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[Old apprentice]

Cessation of grazing causes biodiversity loss and homogenization of soil food webs

There is widespread concern that cessation of grazing in historically grazed ecosystems is causing biotic homogenization and biodiversity loss. We used 12 montane grassland sites along an 800 km north–south gradient across the UK, to test whether ...

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

The old saying if you don't graze pasture well it just goes back and you just get a few plants growing that are rubbish . Grazing encourages flora and fona of a useful sort.

 

[DaveGrohl]

 

[DaveGrohl]

Economic, political, and futurist agendas

Are red meat, dairy, fish, poultry & eggs ethical, healthy & sustainable - or should dietary guidelines become 'plant-based'?

aleph-2020.blogspot.com

 

[DaveGrohl]

Finlo Costain interviews Prof Myles Allen and Dr John Lynch about GWP* and policy issues. Also Roland Bonney who makes some very good points from the farming point of view.

Farm Gate: Ruminant methane, global warming and GWP* - 8.9ha

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8point9.com

 

[lux-ferre]

I'm sure many of you farmers are puzzled by the confusing amount of information you receive and the painstaking form filling required by the "authorities."
I think this 15 -20 minuet video will lift the veil from your eyes.
I'm posting this because the work that farmers do is essntial to life. A decent quality of life through nutrious diet.
Without your work, the public starve !
The powers "behind the throne" seek to eventually possess all agricultural land across the globe (don't laugh, they are serious !) and farm it in the manner of factory production using alternative protein sources like bugs.
Farming will be run as a single Corporation but first, they have to work you off the land !
Please have a look;