Agriculture from Around the world

[Pilatus]

The best birth control is personal wealth, if the planet can only sustain a certain number for long term survival (I would suggest we may have already passed that )

We passed that point a long time ago in the UK,as you will well know.
Glad I am the age I am nearly 65,
because a pint mug will only take a pint , when it over flows things can go out of control.
The U.K ain't seen nothing yet in my opinion!
Thankfully the young ones know no different.

 

[DeereMe88]

We have static levels from 12 ft down to 20-40ft, all electric motors of 30-40hp, pumping 900-1200 gallons minute, the HP you mentioned must put you at 1500-1800ft.. Ouch.
Grow Alfalfa/seed canola/malt barley/some veg.

Wells arent that deep! How many cuts of alfalfa do you take? Whats your main varieties?

 

[DeereMe88]

I find the above info really interesting ,but at the same time really concerning for the future of Saudi food production/supplies.
Do those in high places, think they can buy land elsewhere in the world, produce wheat ,corn etc on that land and ship it back to Saudi cheaper than they can buy those same commodities on the world wide commodities market.?
As other desert countries must be in the same predicament,but without the finances behind them ,like Saudi has,food supplies for some of those countries look bleak,so one can see how much more, productive countries are going to have to produce, to make up up the short fall as well as the needs of their own increasing populations.Extemely concerning for future world wide food supplies.

I agree, Saudi are fortunate in that they have the financial power to look elswhere, many neighbouring countries do not. For example it is expected that Yemen will be the first country in the world to run out of water, who are Saudis neighbour, and also one of the poorest and least developed countries in the world.

Almarai are already importing commodities such as Corn and Soya on the worldwide market, they have the buying power to be able to fill a boat from anywhere in the world and bring it to Saudi. There isnt enough Corn for example being grown in Saudi to supply the Dairy and Poultry divisions, boatloads of it have to be imported. Its more the supply of high quality hay that they have to find land elsewhere. The sheer scale plus the need for steady supply means they would rather keep hay production in their own hands, rather than relying on others.

 

[DeereMe88]

Have you tried the dew simulators to extend your baling time, here using three balers with the dew machines instead of four balers previously.

Haven't tried them, in summer we rake and bale at night, this time of year we bale whenever we can get the moisture correct. Rain has been a problem over the last couple of weeks, delayed both baling and 1st and 2nd herbicides going on new planted alfalfa.

 

[Roger Perry]

Not using RR varieties...?

 

[DeereMe88]

Not using RR varieties...?

No, i dont think they are available in KSA, anyway we are not using.

 

[DeereMe88]

Some of the swathers we use for alfalfa

 

[DeereMe88]

One of our 16 row maize planters

 

[Sparky270]

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Baling team on first farm i worked on. Baling 800-1000 acres a night

NC TRAILERS

 

[Pilatus]

NC TRAILERS

Google "N C Trailers" and there look to be some trailers very much like them,no doubt DeereMe88 will tell all in due course.

 

[Roger Perry]

Why are trailers being used, don't get that, if speedy bale removal is a priority ( absolutely) then you need a few "Stinger" trucks.

 

[oil barron]

all looks very similar to agriculture in the San Jouquin valley. The wells here are down at 2000ft in the centre of the valley now and I can't see the levels rising even if we get good snow pack with El Niño. The farmers are drilling like mad as the right of capture is still the law and they do not meter use.

Are there any almonds in Saudi?

Roger you are sitting pretty with water level at 40ft!

 

[oil barron]

San Luis Valley, south central Colorado.

I believe sub surface drip is about $2k acre

Are you close to the Gator park Roger?

 

[DeereMe88]

Google "N C Trailers" and there look to be some trailers very much like them,no doubt DeereMe88 will tell all in due course.

Trailers used on this farm are NC other farms have Kane.

 

[DeereMe88]

Why are trailers being used, don't get that, if speedy bale removal is a priority ( absolutely) then you need a few "Stinger" trucks.

We clear a pivot with trailers plenty fast enough, our stacks are right beside the pivot. We use 2 loaders to load the trailer then one big loader with squeezer to stack, while another trailer is being loaded, 2 pivots at a time, therefore constant loading. Our boys are loading and unloading a trailer in about 2 minutes, Stingers are slow compared to this. Also loaders can be used on other jobs.

 

[Sparky270]

Trailers used on this farm are NC other farms have Kane.

Has the McGuckian family any involvement now with almari ?

 

[DeereMe88]

Has the McGuckian family any involvement now with almari ?

No not really i dont think, though they still come out to visit the farms every few years. I think Prince Sultan bought their entire share of the Saudi side of the company. I could be wrong though.

 

[Roger Perry]

The Gators are just off Hwy 17 on more the east side of the valley, we are located one farm NW of the town of Center and other property closer to Monte Vista.

Have you been in this locale or Google Earth....?

 

[oil barron]

The Gators are just off Hwy 17 on more the east side of the valley, we are located one farm NW of the town of Center and other property closer to Monte Vista.

Have you been in this locale or Google Earth....?

Google Earth. I'd like to come visit though. Do you have a link to that farm in New Mexico?

 

[Roger Perry]

It is a private deal, not listed.

South of Deming NM