Air compressor problem

[Netherfield]

While we're on the subject,

How many bother draining the water out of the receiver regularly?

 

[milkloss]

right, had a bit of a look about whilst at work today.
The only think I can find relating to the law, is the pressure equipment directive,

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pressure-systems/law.htm

which calls out the following code of practice.

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l122.pdf

As far as I can see, insurance companies are just playing it safe by saying every year or whatever, whereas, if you were bothered, and wrote a specific "written Scheme of Examination" and demonstrated your competent, you would not need to.
Other insurers, I assume either haven't got round to it, or assume that people are competent to identify a dangerous pressure vessel or pipework.

I can appreciate your opinion but when they write stuff like this:
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99 The attributes needed for competent persons who draw up or certify schemes of examination relating to minor, intermediate and major systems are shown below. (a) Minor systems. (i) Staff. At least one member of staff qualified to incorporated engineer level with adequate relevant experience and knowledge of the law, codes of practice, examination and inspection techniques and understanding of the effects of operation for the system concerned.
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I begin to wonder: Do many farms have a qualified engineer to hand that could 'draw up' a scheme of examination?

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

He checked inside it, had a gadget thst checked the thickness of the skin, tested the relief valve etc, it's more than a quick look.
If you do it through NFU it's fifty quid, go direct to vulcan it's three hundred, you decide which is best value. I doubt the insurers underwriters would accept farmer Giles said its good to go still................

At £300 per year it would be cheaper to go on on a pressure vessel inspection course yourself and become "competent".

The industry guidelines say 2 to 5 years between pressure vessel inspections is good enough (let's face it they've not all of a sudden started failing annually), yet the insurers are requiring yearly inspections. Sound like sharp practice or a good earner.

 

[Bloders]

I can appreciate your opinion but when they write stuff like this:
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99 The attributes needed for competent persons who draw up or certify schemes of examination relating to minor, intermediate and major systems are shown below. (a) Minor systems. (i) Staff. At least one member of staff qualified to incorporated engineer level with adequate relevant experience and knowledge of the law, codes of practice, examination and inspection techniques and understanding of the effects of operation for the system concerned.
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I begin to wonder: Do many farms have a qualified engineer to hand that could 'draw up' a scheme of examination?

where did you find that quote?

 

[Badshot]

At £300 per year it would be cheaper to go on on a pressure vessel inspection course yourself and become "competent".

The industry guidelines say 2 to 5 years between pressure vessel inspections is good enough (let's face it they've not all of a sudden started failing annually), yet the insurers are requiring yearly inspections. Sound like sharp practice or a good earner.

Could be a nice sideline in winter.

 

[milkloss]

where did you find that quote?

Your link:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l122.pdf

Bottom of page 30, para 99.

I can skim sh1t like that document really quick looking for sh1ttery.

 

[Bloders]

At £300 per year it would be cheaper to go on on a pressure vessel inspection course yourself and become "competent".

The industry guidelines say 2 to 5 years between pressure vessel inspections is good enough (let's face it they've not all of a sudden started failing annually), yet the insurers are requiring yearly inspections. Sound like sharp practice or a good earner.

sharp practice, or too scared to be sensible so they saying every year.
my understanding was it was 5 or 10 year intervals as an indutry standard for steel tanks

 

[Bloders]

Your link:

http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/priced/l122.pdf

Bottom of page 30, para 99.

I can skim sh1t like that document really quick looking for sh1ttery.

our good. i skim read, then have to skim read again, then go to the start and read it slowly before i see stuff.
I did not read it properly as i was at work today (my excuse anyway)

interesting note anyway

 

[Pan mixer]

our good. i skim read, then have to skim read again, then go to the start and read it slowly before i see stuff.
I did not read it properly as i was at work today (my excuse anyway)

interesting note anyway

Goodness that was dull.

 

[Bloders]

Goodness that was dull.

Lol we're all different
I found the bit about being an incorporated engineer interesting. Mainly because I have never seen a "mandatory" requirement for any level of professional engineer before, except a chartered engineer can sign yer passport
But don't tell anyone