supercow
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- Location
- Dumfriesshire
Genuinely sorry about how you all feel about my calcium situation, on the other hand I don’t regret it and would do it again 
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buffalo_soldier
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- Location
- cumbria
Good going for your low calcium use
You ever try the bolus version?
It's probably better suited to what you're trying to achieve.
- Location
- South Molton
So prophylactic treatment is OK, but only treating, over a certain number, is seen as a black mark?
jimmer
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- Location
- East Devon
Did I hear that under 360, penstrep is vet prescribed only
Isn’t it always?
Jdunn55
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- Location
- Helston, cornwall
Got told that in Denmark everything is prescription only, can't have bottles on farm like we currently do
TheRanger
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- Location
- SW Scotland
I assumed he meant vet administered only, as is what happens in Denmark (Arla country)
Jdunn55
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- Location
- Helston, cornwall
I think he means you can't keep a bottle in the shelf, as in if you have a poorly cow or calf etc you have to get the vet out and prescribe 10ml of penstrep for the animal in question?
- Location
- Northumberland
jimmer
Member
- Location
- East Devon
Pen is fine, but strep is group 2 or some such so needed for humanoids
Wishful Thinker
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- Location
- Northern Ireland
Farm tour at @MrA.G. today. Complete opposite system to me but enjoyable visit made better by the chocolate cake.
Surprise calving to finish the day off, meant to be a limousin, might end up seeing the robot with them markings
- Location
- somerset
we may think our standards are world beating, in some nordic countries, only vets are allowed to administer anti-biotics. In some ways, our record keeping is rather lax, compared to some ! One of the 'big' boasts of the N/Red, is the detailed records kept, between farmer, breeding centre and vets. I really don't think we have to much to complain about, just pray the deluded zealots don't get it in their sights.
Their records didn’t divulge the evil temperament some of them have!
lazy farmer
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- Location
- som/dor border
Trouble is. Is that why their cows have so few lactations ?
Will Blackburn
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- Location
- Cheshire
They have world beating prices. It cuts both ways you know,
- Location
- somerset
and yet, they are widely peddled over here, as the 'ideal' cross, along with many other breeds, but if they are so good as a cross, over our cows here, why do so few actually cross their cows ?
We have all sorts of crosses here, some are great, and some are crap, some even go as sucklers to a friend, best place for them.
Temperament, luck of the draw really, the old proper fr, could be some miserable bitches, one bull heavily promoted around here, horwood emporer 25th, produced hfrs that were pure evil, kept the chat going at skittles for 2 years, l doubt many ever made 3rd lac, a lot never made 2.
Each breed has it's good and bad points, over here, it would seem the hol took a wrong turn, and some sort of remedial action became necessary, so xing with other breeds, was the 'solution', previous farmers spent decades breeding up cattle, to a 'pure breed', 20 yrs of xing, have undone that, l think we need to concentrate on breeding the bad bits out of our pure breeds, to get a decent cow back again, with genomics, a huge gene pool, shouldn't be difficult.
As for price, with the desire for xing, no wonder they are expensive, everyone is chasing top end bulls ! Little difference to hols or fr over here. The standard of record keeping, is a lot more extensive, than over here, but probably only because of a joined up system, where farmers, breeders and vets, all interlock, something we don't really do here.
- Location
- South Molton
The Scandinavian Black and whites have similar production, health traits etc.
But the B&Ws don't have the marketing benefit of a different colour markings!
Only peaked at 53 litres but was in high 40's for 18 months
Spudley
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- Location
- Pembrokeshire