All things Dairy

[lazy farmer]

Nothings going to change here.
we are cracking on. If you all want to cut back so be it £££££

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Now I may be niave but I think because the cost increase is so large we will get to pass this one on.
Without N production levels will drop significantly. Global production in dairy is already behind growth.

So we will end up with a milk price that allows us to buy fert at £700 a ton. There won't be any more margin for the farmer unless the high price slightly altea their use.

I just don't see how I can significantly cut my N use without a major cut in cow numbers.

You are naive sir

 

[lazy farmer]

You are naive sir

wykes price increase this week would suggest not.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

wykes price increase this week would suggest not.

The milk price is not increasing because inputs are going up

 

[Beef farmer]

The milk price is not increasing because inputs are going up

Milk price is increasing because off lack of milk due to rising inputs

 

[som farmer]

Milk price is increasing because off lack of milk due to rising inputs

wyke 2.2 1 jan
rising imports, inc fert !
the major purchasers have basically screwed all producers to the floor, to obtain the milk, they now will have to pay, and about time.
The problem now, is to keep production at a level that keeps the price up, the usual response of farmers, is to ramp production up, which we all know, leads to surplus, and a price crash, lets hope less fert is used !

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Milk price is increasing because off lack of milk due to rising inputs

I should not speak about the European milk market I guess. Milk production never really drops here.

Faria brothers have their new project mostly on line 5 108 cow rotaries 50000 head on 1 site. They are one of the largest milk producers in the world. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. All expansion here is now done in 10000 cow increments it seems

 

[pine_guy]

I should not speak about the European milk market I guess. Milk production never really drops here.

Faria brothers have their new project mostly on line 5 108 cow rotaries 50000 head on 1 site. They are one of the largest milk producers in the world. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. All expansion here is now done in 10000 cow increments it seems

Area the grazing at all?

 

[vantage]

I should not speak about the European milk market I guess. Milk production never really drops here.

Faria brothers have their new project mostly on line 5 108 cow rotaries 50000 head on 1 site. They are one of the largest milk producers in the world. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. All expansion here is now done in 10000 cow increments it seems

California?
If so, can’t see it being sustainable for the medium term with the water issues there.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

California?
If so, can’t see it being sustainable for the medium term with the water issues there.

No California is largely out as far as future expansion goes. More leaving there than anything else. It’s largely northern Midwest and southern plains where the expansion is happening. Texas has no water laws and the north has cool weather and plentiful inputs and space with reduced reliance on irrigation


Sustainable doesn’t really have anything to do with modern milk production. If it did we would have regional food systems focused mainly around population centers. 600 miles on a truck for a pot of cattle or tank of milk is normal. And supply demand economics would actually matter. Any of the top operations will have the same answer if you ask them what they would change due to rising inputs. Answer: Nothing, current production system is already the least cost system we can come up with.

New milk plant being built in aw Kansas and the word is it will have less than 10 suppliers and preferably 5. Looking to have 10000 cow single site operations only.

 

[vantage]

No California is largely out as far as future expansion goes. More leaving there than anything else. It’s largely northern Midwest and southern plains where the expansion is happening. Texas has no water laws and the north has cool weather and plentiful inputs and space with reduced reliance on irrigation


Sustainable doesn’t really have anything to do with modern milk production. If it did we would have regional food systems focused mainly around population centers. 600 miles on a truck for a pot of cattle or tank of milk is normal. And supply demand economics would actually matter. Any of the top operations will have the same answer if you ask them what they would change due to rising inputs. Answer: Nothing, current production system is already the least cost system we can come up with.

New milk plant being built in aw Kansas and the word is it will have less than 10 suppliers and preferably 5. Looking to have 10000 cow single site operations only.

I’m guessing the dairies are fully vertically integrated? Hell of a risk for an individual business to be 20% of a processor’s milk field, smacks of Smithfield foods business model.

 

[Dead Rabbits]

I’m guessing the dairies are fully vertically integrated? Hell of a risk for an individual business to be 20% of a processor’s milk field, smacks of Smithfield foods business model.

Not necessarily, some cost plus contracts. Mostly coops in those areas. That’s hilmar cheese building the new plant. Not sure what the arrangement is with it.

I don’t know of anyone at that scale doing their own processing other than braums and the ones involved with fair life milk.

 

[lazy farmer]

So I listen to radio, music, podcasts all day on my headphones. This week morning Milkings Have been a right pain. The flies have been extraordinary.
So this morning I thought I’d try out the theory that what you’re listening to affects your mood. So I put some jazz on and whilst milking with Still a right Pain My mood was much more chilled! I must remember to do it when heifers are trying to kick my head off next March!

 

[lazy farmer]

Another 12 days for the incalvers of

 

[Beef farmer]

I should not speak about the European milk market I guess. Milk production never really drops here.

Faria brothers have their new project mostly on line 5 108 cow rotaries 50000 head on 1 site. They are one of the largest milk producers in the world. That’s just the tip of the iceberg. All expansion here is now done in 10000 cow increments it seems

But US milk production is down a few %
The beauty and the issue this time is world wide grain and fert prices will catch up woth everyone.
Was just reading an article that Texas sent less milk in September for the 1st September in 10 years. Not liking corn @$250.

These big 50k cows on one site, sure the margins are tight for them too

 

[Blue.]

Fert price doesn’t bother me as I only used 18t last year,I’ll manage with the rest of the artic load next year,straights prices have a far bigger impact to me.

 

[pine_guy]

Girls patiently awaiting breakfast

 

[Happy hillbily]

Yellow taxi for the heifer tonight before milking .
She been trying to get up after a difficult calving the other day, but with every failed attempt she has slowly headed down hill towards a ravine, thankfull for this dry weather otherwise wouldn't have got the loadall anywhere near her. Now happily munching her way through a bucket full of silage on a flatter field now.

 

[Beef farmer]

More like March than November. Chill in the wind, grass still marching on

 

[Jdunn55]

More like March than November. Chill in the wind, grass still marching on View attachment 999040

You grazing still?