All things Dairy

Stinker

Member
The drums are from when we did used to have 20 plus calves on one drum so needed to fill it. Plus they have to suck harder which apparently is a good thing. Two drums means that a pen of 22-24 calves can all drink at once. Can’t get that many round one drum without bullying. Despite being ad-lib they all like their breakfast at the same time.
At what strength do you mix the milk powder? Will adding more water make it last all day or just make their pens wetter? Once outside are they fed a more concentrated milk or less of it so they can drink it in one sitting.
 

Dragon

Member
Location
Cornwall
Could you have 4 drums spread out and have 40/50 in a pen? Or do you feel they would all favour 1 drum?
What stops the drums falling over? Sat in a tyre?
Doesnt work they all favour one drum
Just about ok with 40-50 calves on fifty teat trailer.
Usual tricks is to stand the drum in a tyre, not sure how you do it with 2
 

frederick

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Location
south west
Kite Consulting changing their name to Dairy Consulting by diktat from AB Foods.
The email I received simply stated that the name on my bank statement when I pay will change. That would be standard practice when companies change and a couple of front ends maybe planned on trading through the same bank account.
I've not had anything saying they are rebranding. The email still signed off kite consulting.
 

Bald Rick

Moderator
Livestock Farmer
Location
Anglesey
The email I received simply stated that the name on my bank statement when I pay will change. That would be standard practice when companies change and a couple of front ends maybe planned on trading through the same bank account.
I've not had anything saying they are rebranding. The email still signed off kite consulting.

TBF I just glanced at it. Seems you are correct. Carry on … and thank you
 

DairyNerd

Member
Livestock Farmer

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Martyn

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Location
South west
Are spring calving herds out grazing? Our cows are incalf and need to be producing cheap milk, but weather conditions are awful, don’t know if I should just go for it and back fence everything or give up and expect to be loosing money until turn out
 
Location
Cheshire
Are spring calving herds out grazing? Our cows are incalf and need to be producing cheap milk, but weather conditions are awful, don’t know if I should just go for it and back fence everything or give up and expect to be loosing money until turn out
It’s terribly wet even on our light sand, lots of grass but it would be a mistake to try just yet for us. I do bear in mind though, Autumn herds have an advantage in that they can catch up unlike Springers.
 

Cotlandfarmer

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Livestock Farmer
Are spring calving herds out grazing? Our cows are incalf and need to be producing cheap milk, but weather conditions are awful, don’t know if I should just go for it and back fence everything or give up and expect to be loosing money until turn out

Only been out two days in February, usually out every day from around the 5th Feb.

Loads of grass about, when ground conditions allow it will hopefully allow the cows to be out day and night early in March.

Let's hope for a kind March.
 

DairyNerd

Member
Livestock Farmer
@Martyn our milking cows will have to be out end of next week full time, will only be a few though, different ball game on bigger numbers. The dry cows and transition cows are in filling up our silage clamp and cubicle shed so no where sensible to put them. We are quite dry here but it is still wet enough. Looking for a day to put some fert on too, probably should have gone for it earlier in the month. 🙄
 

Martyn

Member
Location
South west
@Martyn our milking cows will have to be out end of next week full time, will only be a few though, different ball game on bigger numbers. The dry cows and transition cows are in filling up our silage clamp and cubicle shed so no where sensible to put them. We are quite dry here but it is still wet enough. Looking for a day to put some fert on too, probably should have gone for it earlier in the month. 🙄
Our silage will run out tomorrow as our pit has major springs in and has floated out, insane wastage. Our milk price drops 8ppl on most of our milk from March so no incentive to go off buying lots of grub
 

DairyNerd

Member
Livestock Farmer
Our silage will run out tomorrow as our pit has major springs in and has floated out, insane wastage. Our milk price drops 8ppl on most of our milk from March so no incentive to go off buying lots of grub

They will eat 5kgDM in 3 hours with appetite, the grass will be low DM obviously so might be harder to achieve than normal. If it is really wet but you can feasibly get out have plenty of grass and no silage your could do two breaks, one after each milking for 2-3 hours each per day. Might not be practical, don't know your set up. Will reduce your bought in silage needed quite considerably though.
 

easy farming

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Livestock Farmer
Are spring calving herds out grazing? Our cows are incalf and need to be producing cheap milk, but weather conditions are awful, don’t know if I should just go for it and back fence everything or give up and expect to be loosing money until turn out
We are out day and night, have been since first week in Feb. No choice as we do not have housing for milking cows. Sandy farm with good infrastructure so no real mess. Grass supplemented with silage and PKE on yard before going to fields.
 

Stinker

Member
The drums are from when we did used to have 20 plus calves on one drum so needed to fill it. Plus they have to suck harder which apparently is a good thing. Two drums means that a pen of 22-24 calves can all drink at once. Can’t get that many round one drum without bullying. Despite being ad-lib they all like their breakfast at the same time.
I'm guessing the older calves can be going 12 hours or so without milk. What stops them drinking ridiculous amounts the following morning when they get the next load of milk. I always thought you couldn't let adlib calves run out of milk or they would drink to much next feed and scour
 
I'm guessing the older calves can be going 12 hours or so without milk. What stops them drinking ridiculous amounts the following morning when they get the next load of milk. I always thought you couldn't let adlib calves run out of milk or they would drink to much next feed and scour
The older ones are also on calf pellets and hay so no they don’t drink ridiculous amounts
 

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