Some of the posts in this thread are so adolescent in their acceptance of cruelty it makes me sick. This movement is the biggest threat to farming in the UK and bury your head in the sand at your peril! There is no smoke without fire and cruelty certainly takes place. Are those on here who make jokes about cruelty some of the perpetrators? Should the rest of us who treat our animals with respect protect them or shop them to protect our industry? Maybe we have to purge from within.