glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
Depends how much they are going to milk off the taxpayer. Then it is jo publics business.
another farm gone
- Thread starter egbert
- Start date
- Location
- West Suffolk
Looks a nice place
Check out this Farm for sale on Rightmove
Farm for sale in Siblyback, Cornwall, PL14 for £10,000,000. Marketed by D. R. Kivell Country Property, Covering South West
- Location
- Lincolnshire
It's only a bit of paper that stops woodland reverting to grass or arable. If there was every real need, I'm sure the govt of the day could have trees ripped out and land drained for ag if required.
ollie989898
Member
Been done before, may well be done again one day.
Which side? I might be jumping to the wrong conclusion. PM if you prefer. Used to be seed producers?
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
Do you think good food producing land (I have no idea if this is) should only be used to produce food?
You limit buyers then, in the UK at least which will drive land price down.
I'm all for it but I doubt many landowners are (in fact I suggested just that in a "what do you want" thread and got told to bugger off)
On the other hand, if it's marginal farming land it perhaps should be used for the next best thing, whatever that may be.
I'd suggest your annoyance should be directed at the sellers.
Kernowkid
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This oxygen conservation people sound like a bunch of cowboys. Cashing in on carbon credits for £££ nothing to do with the environment. Greed is all it’s about.
Sets a worrying precedent for all farms coming up for sale. Especially those on marginal ground. Inheritance tax relief and this now this will make it almost impossible for farmers to buy ground in this country
Sets a worrying precedent for all farms coming up for sale. Especially those on marginal ground. Inheritance tax relief and this now this will make it almost impossible for farmers to buy ground in this country
Kernowkid
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Oxygen Conservation - Home
We are committed to scaling conservation to deliver positive environmental and social impact, in an attempt to save the world.
www.oxygenconservation.com
£10,309 per acre for hill land?
Fools and their money eh.
It will be sold back at £2k when the bubble bursts and the suits realise they’ve been played like a deck of cards. Scottish Councils are now refusing planning on change of use to forestry, leaving these goons £8k an acre in the hole for marginal ground
I have also looked at their accounts, and at the end of their accounts is a long list of all the solar farms they have a financial interest in.
They certainly appear to knowhow to work the financial system better than farmers do, or perhaps I am missing something.
kiwi pom
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- Location
- canterbury NZ
The whole green, carbon credit/trading thing is one big con but it's something governments have bought in or allowed as a way to beat businesses with the 'green' stick.
These businesses are then taking advantage of the situation to stay trading and appear green. Most don't give a shite about it but have to, to survive.
At the same time new companies are setting up to help people becomes "green' and grab the money.
They're no different than farmers taking subs, entering schemes, applying for grants or taking advantage of tax.
Farmers are also taking advantage of the fact that their ground has gone up in value and is in demand and selling up.
Food production will continue in countries that have no options for land.
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
They found out in 1917 and1939 that they didnt have the available men, metal, or fuel to reinstate the rewilded land to cropland.
Thousands of sailors died a horrible death bringing food fuel and metal to these islands because of the stupidity of politicians failing to provide for ourselves
glasshouse
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- Location
- lothians
And ww 3 started last night
Zebbedee
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- Location
- Scotland in the best bit
Can’t fault there advertising on the website and with an open mind and simplistic view it could all be believed.Oxygen Conservation - Home
We are committed to scaling conservation to deliver positive environmental and social impact, in an attempt to save the world.
What a difference a bit of positive spin can do for general public as there descriptions of the “portfolio” are really good eg wildlife counted rare species identified and old trees counted along with some rare breed pigs etc it makes it all sound wonderful,,,,,,,,whereas the fact of the matter as it appears to me is they have so far done very little to the farm it was already there when they bought it, they are just selling it differently.
Farming needs to sell itself better/differently and possibly do what these companies do to make money?
How do these companies make money??
Rewilding in itself doesn’t make money does it? To maintain these farms will take money too, eg ditches and drains will still need to work for trees and scrub to grow? Some areas of scrub and gorse will need to be controlled at some point too or it will become a wilderness won’t it? The rewilded animals will need some sort of care too? Or just let loose to there own devices how does that sit with animal welfare etc??
I’m posing questions I don’t know the answers too but the website looks wonderful all the same,
Farming needs to sell itself better as most farms I know do look after the environment and nature better than any other sector eg better than any of the general public and way better than any other industry in the country and I bet miles better than any company advertising rewilding.
Take one of that farms in the portfolio eg probably I person or a family running it say even a family and a full time employee employed scraping a living and looking after the environment probably knowing about every wild animal living there too,,,,now take the number off staff that rewilding company have each with a salary and a company car no doubt, company pension normal working hours 9 to 4 and 3pm on a Friday “ How does it work” ???? Farmers maybe need to do what these people are doing??? Whatever that is because I don’t know
nails
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- Location
- East Dorset
Yes , much like it is the Taxpayers business what the farmers are doing with all their handouts.
nails
Member
- Location
- East Dorset
Could be quite soon with WW3 about to kick off
Kiwi pom, with respect, why do you "poke your nose" into whats happening and affecting people who live work, farm here in the UK? I dont know your problems, or what gets up your nose in newzealand, and id imagine there is plenty? But if you have gone from the UK to New Zealand to live, work, or farm good luck, all im concerned about it here, where i live and work and run businesses, and all ive seen in the last 40 odd years is a decline on many many fronts, from over development in my local area, with that, police ? Just take one thing police, back in the 1970s, when i was growing up we had a police house, and wickford (local town had a police station?) We saw police and knew the local, policeman and he knew us? Now today my local area there are about 3 times the population that there was back in the 1970s and rapidly growing? The police station is shut, so is the police house in the village, crime crime, serious crime even here is nearly out of control, shop lifting just ignored? Yes kiwi pom im concerned, not just on a local level as ive said, but seen our great country decline, with no real leadership of where its going? Its like a rudderless ship in a storm close to the rocks? You out in Newzealand for one havnt the population growth pressure yet? That we have here now in the UK, the govt what govt, now talks about 300,000 new extra houses are needed a year? So how much land/ food growing land will that then swallow up for just one thing?