Any EUrophiles want to justify the EU and its member states breaking their own laws?

[Danllan]

Come on, have the courage, you know you want to - especially you @Ashtree *- defend your beloved EU. Spain and some others have broken their own national (as required to have by EU law) and EU laws on various things. You lot were dead-keen on 'international law' being followed a while ago, why no comments now?

Lots of examples to go through - even from dear old Germany - but let's focus on the most unpleasant for now... Spain, and its appalling and illegal treatment of migrants. Now, odd as it may seem, France and others - including the EU itself in the person of the ever-competent** UvdL - have backed up Spain.

Yes, you read that correctly, the EU via the EC has said it supports one of its own member states breaking both EU and its own law...

It's true folks, obviously it's all very embarrassing for all concerned, but the facts remain. So... again, who is going to hold up their hand and pledge support for this outrageous law-breaking? Who is going to be honest enough to say, they don't care, it's in the EU so it's fine just because of that?

Or are there any who'll do the obvious, rational thing of condemning such hypocrisy, such abuse of human rights and such flagrant betrayal of the 'European ideals'...?



*But not @czechmate because he's been honest enough about not caring for democracy etc. from the start.

**

 

[czechmate]

Come on, have the courage, you know you want to - especially you @Ashtree *- defend your beloved EU. Spain and some others have broken their own national (as required to have by EU law) and EU laws on various things. You lot were dead-keen on 'international law' being followed a while ago, why no comments now?

Lots of examples to go through - even from dear old Germany - but let's focus on the most unpleasant for now... Spain, and its appalling and illegal treatment of migrants. Now, odd as it may seem, France and others - including the EU itself in the person of the ever-competent** UvdL - have backed up Spain.

Yes, you read that correctly, the EU via the EC has said it supports one of its own member states breaking both EU and its own law...

It's true folks, obviously it's all very embarrassing for all concerned, but the facts remain. So... again, who is going to hold up their hand and pledge support for this outrageous law-breaking? Who is going to be honest enough to say, they don't care, it's in the EU so it's fine just because of that?

Or are there any who'll do the obvious, rational thing of condemning such hypocrisy, such abuse of human rights and such flagrant betrayal of the 'European ideals'...?



*But not @czechmate because he's been honest enough about not caring for democracy etc. from the start.

**

Yea, well there’s a big problem with democracy. Just look at some of the people that get to “have their say”!

 

[Danllan]

Yea, well there’s a big problem with democracy. Just look at some of the people that get to “have their say”!

Yep, that's true enough there are many idiots around wherever one chooses to look ...

But, as the man said, 'democracy is the worst form of government – except for all the others...'

 

[Muck Spreader]

Are you trying to defect are comments away from the Brexit sh!t show currently engulfing the UK.
So what has Spain done that is so much worse than Obergruppenführer Patel is currently implementing?

 

[le bon paysan]

Are you trying to defect are comments away from the Brexit sh!t show currently engulfing the UK.
So what has Spain done that is so much worse than Obergruppenführer Patel is currently implementing?

Yes.
Danny boys the master of deflection.

 

[Henarar]

Are you trying to defect are comments away from the Brexit sh!t show currently engulfing the UK.
So what has Spain done that is so much worse than Obergruppenführer Patel is currently implementing?

no engulfing going on here, all is well, you want to stop taking notice of the prats on the news

 

[Henarar]

Are you trying to defect are comments away from the Brexit sh!t show currently engulfing the UK.
So what has Spain done that is so much worse than Obergruppenführer Patel is currently implementing?

Yes.
Danny boys the master of deflection.

seems like you two are deflecting, keep on topic

 

[caveman]

Kerrrrroist
You can tell the time of day by when Putins kids get kicked out of school and get on their troll bots.

 

[Muck Spreader]

seems like you two are deflecting, keep on topic

Tell me what Spain is doing then?

 

[Muck Spreader]

no engulfing going on here, all is well, you want to stop taking notice of the prats on the news

So all these cars chasing petrol, pigs the can't be slaughtered, bribing fertilizer factories to reopen, shortages of Gas and Electricity, veg and fruit rotting thin the fields, empty shelves in the supermarkets, Army on standby, Talk of having to close schools again etc, is all an elaborate hoax by the media!

 

[Widgetone]

So all these cars chasing petrol, pigs the can't be slaughtered, bribing fertilizer factories to reopen, shortages of Gas and Electricity, veg and fruit rotting thin the fields, empty shelves in the supermarkets, Army on standby, Talk of having to close schools again etc, is all an elaborate hoax by the media!

Its all remoaner based media lies, I read it somewhere on TFF so it must be fact.
Wetherspoons had Ruddles bitter on tap at £1.69 last week, all is well - beer shortage also a myth..

 

[bobk]

Come on, have the courage, you know you want to - especially you @Ashtree *- defend your beloved EU. Spain and some others have broken their own national (as required to have by EU law) and EU laws on various things. You lot were dead-keen on 'international law' being followed a while ago, why no comments now?

Lots of examples to go through - even from dear old Germany - but let's focus on the most unpleasant for now... Spain, and its appalling and illegal treatment of migrants. Now, odd as it may seem, France and others - including the EU itself in the person of the ever-competent** UvdL - have backed up Spain.

Yes, you read that correctly, the EU via the EC has said it supports one of its own member states breaking both EU and its own law...

It's true folks, obviously it's all very embarrassing for all concerned, but the facts remain. So... again, who is going to hold up their hand and pledge support for this outrageous law-breaking? Who is going to be honest enough to say, they don't care, it's in the EU so it's fine just because of that?

Or are there any who'll do the obvious, rational thing of condemning such hypocrisy, such abuse of human rights and such flagrant betrayal of the 'European ideals'...?



*But not @czechmate because he's been honest enough about not caring for democracy etc. from the start.

**

iirc the EU commission has around 800 litigation processes against EU states a year , how silly .

 

[Ashtree]

In all honesty, I believe Spain is well within its rights, to unceremoniously toss out ALL British illegals. The Brits did after all, chose to leave the EU, and all its attendant benefits of freedom of movement and right to stay. So yes, illegal Brits should be strapped to a pallet with all their belongings, and shipped at next tide back to the land of empty shelves, fuel shortages, and general mayhem. They deserve each other immensely.

 

[bobk]

In all honesty, I believe Spain is well within its rights, to unceremoniously toss out ALL British illegals. The Brits did after all, chose to leave the EU, and all its attendant benefits of freedom of movement and right to stay. So yes, illegal Brits should be strapped to a pallet with all their belongings, and shipped at next tide back to the land of empty shelves, fuel shortages, and general mayhem. They deserve each other immensely.

Good idea , then you can bail out the busted Spanish property market , are you Kiers economic advisor ?

 

[Ashtree]

Good idea , then you can bail out the busted Spanish property market , are you Kiers economic advisor ?

When the ex pat Brits leave, the values tend to increase.

 

[bobk]

When the ex pat Brits leave, the values tend to increase.

Denial .

 

[BrianV]

Are you trying to defect are comments away from the Brexit sh!t show currently engulfing the UK.
So what has Spain done that is so much worse than Obergruppenführer Patel is currently implementing?

Is it really Brexit sh!t or are we now finally finding out what a load of tossers we put into parliament & are now having to live with the consequences, for too long their pathetic failures were put down to "EU" rules!

 

[bobk]

Is it really Brexit sh!t or are we now finally finding out what a load of tossers we put into parliament & are now having to live with the consequences, for too long their pathetic failures were put down to "EU" rules!

Which other bunch of tossers would you like in charge

 

[Ashtree]

Which other bunch of tossers would you like in charge

Deflection.

 

[BrianV]

Which other bunch of tossers would you like in charge

Can you really say you are impressed with the ability of MPs of any of the parties, it makes you cringe when they do interviews on TV as you know they haven't a clue really. I reckon no more than 20% are there on ability the rest are just political dross.