Are EU qualified spraying certs legal in uk.

[Boomerang]

I employ a polish national who holds a polish qualification for spraying.
Is that acceptable here, or do we jump through the relevant hoops and get them uk qualification .???

 

[B'o'B]

I employ a polish national who holds a polish qualification for spraying.
Is that acceptable here, or do we jump through the relevant hoops and get them uk qualification .???

Everything I’ve seen seems to state they require PA certificates, which I think are UK specific. There is never any mention of an equivalent certificate being acceptable.

 

[czechmate]

Uk ones aren’t here.

 

[Gav]

No, they will need to get the relevant uk qualifications to be able to spray here legally. The same applies for any other certification like those for telehandlers etc.

 

[Pond digger]

Uk ones aren’t here.

So much for European integration eh!

 

[czechmate]

So much for European integration eh!

Clearly not as integrated as you thought

 

[Exfarmer]

is it actually illegal to spray without a ticket? or just non compliance in assurance schemes?

 

[Boomerang]

Good question ?

 

[Badshot]

is it actually illegal to spray without a ticket? or just non compliance in assurance schemes?

As legislation came in decades before farm assurance I'd say it's a legal issue not just compliance with RT rules.

 

[Princess Pooper]

is it actually illegal to spray without a ticket? or just non compliance in assurance schemes?

illegal

 

[Boohoo]

is it actually illegal to spray without a ticket? or just non compliance in assurance schemes?

From what I was told on the PA courses it depends on the product you're applying. You can buy pesticides in garden centres etc and do whatever you want with them without a certificate but if you buy professional products you need a certificate to apply them, even in a domestic setting such as a garden.

 

[Exfarmer]

I would expect if the legislation is H&S , it would specify a suitably qualified person. I think in English law, a similar qualification from Poland would be good enough, if the operator spoke and particularly could read English.
I am not an expert on the law though!

 

[Exfarmer]

The law is that everyone born after Dec 31st 1964, must have a certificate of competence. UK certificates are well known, but I can see nothing that says a certificate must have been issued by a UK authority
Although Grandfather rights were going to be removed the legislation was never enacted.
However I would suggest it would be wise to put him through the process

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

I employ a polish national who holds a polish qualification for spraying.
Is that acceptable here, or do we jump through the relevant hoops and get them uk qualification .???

By law your employee must hold at least a PA1 and PA2A and/or PA6A qualification to spray on farm (professional use)

I’d suggest you call the either the NFU or the NPTC directly and check whether the Polish qualifications your employee holds are recognised here against our PA qualifications.

NPTC (formerly National Proficiency Tests Council)
National Agricultural Centre
Stoneleigh
Kenilworth
Warwickshire
CV8 2LG
Phone: 024 7685 7300 Website: www.nptc.org.uk

(Note: I got the contact details from the Persticides Code of Practice booklet, but NPTC is now part of City & Guilds, so best go to their website to check.)

 

[Exfarmer]

By law your employee must hold at least a PA1 and PA2A and/or PA6A qualification to spray on farm (professional use)

I’d suggest you call the either the NFU or the NPTC directly and check whether the Polish qualifications your employee holds are recognised here against our PA qualifications.

NPTC (formerly National Proficiency Tests Council)
National Agricultural Centre
Stoneleigh
Kenilworth
Warwickshire
CV8 2LG
Phone: 024 7685 7300 Website: www.nptc.org.uk

(Note: I got the contact details from the Persticides Code of Practice booklet, but NPTC is now part of City & Guilds, so best go to their website to check.)

This is not strictly true, as I posted above, the law says anybody under the age 55 needs a certificate of competence, it does not state where from.

 

[Raider112]

The law is that everyone born after Dec 31st 1964, must have a certificate of competence. UK certificates are well known, but I can see nothing that says a certificate must have been issued by a UK authority
Although Grandfather rights were going to be removed the legislation was never enacted.
However I would suggest it would be wise to put him through the process

So a 60 year old can still spray legally after all? that would have saved a lot of hassle.

 

[Exfarmer]

So a 60 year old can still spray legally after all? that would have saved a lot of hassle.

It wont satisfy assurance though. I think that is why the legislation was not bought forward

 

[Boohoo]

As far as I know Grandfather rights ceased 3 or 4 years ago. Anyone who was old enough to hold them could do a simplified course that allowed them to only spray their own land but these courses have now ended.

 

[Pheasant Surprise]

This is not strictly true, as I posted above, the law says anybody under the age 55 needs a certificate of competence, it does not state where from.

What professional body, other than the NPTC, issues certificates of competence for spraying then? Whom else would you suggest the OP contacts to get a legally valid opinion that would stand up in court ?

 

[Gav]

All the information you need can be found in this link and a link on the page it takes you to. 26th November 2015 was the cut off point for spraying with Grandfather rights, it is contained within the sustainable use directive and UK law. Yes I’m a pesticide safety instructor for those who didn’t know already....I await the usual hatred now.

The Sustainable Use Directive (SUD)

The SUD has been transposed into UK law and all users of professional pesticides are required to abide by it.

voluntaryinitiative.org.uk

Follow the link on that page for recognised certification within the UK.

Some of the training courses carried out on the continent are quite frankly a joke compared to what we have to undertake to do the same task here, always interesting to hear what some of these guys had to do to pass....turn up is enough on some of them.