Are modern farmers lazy?

[Thomas5060]

You're a bit special, don't know anyone who does a proper days work on toast?

Doesn't have to be bread, can be soda, pancakes, fadge, wheaten

 

[Thomas5060]

@Blod once described our farming as "old fashioned" so I must be an "old fashioned farmer" as apposed to a "modern" one
Would that mean I am not lazy by default ? @Thomas5060

Must be some kind of grand fathers rights arrangement for laziness

 

[Henarar]

Must be some kind of grand fathers rights arrangement for laziness

Do me best

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Has been a good thread though.
Pride was mentioned, and I think pride is slowly slipping away around here. It's not admired and encouraged and exhorted the way it probably was. Scale to a degree, makes it harder to achieve the same level of finish, or will take more time to achieve those finer points?
As in, a farmer might have 700bhp all running, but still has to paint fences with a 2 inch brush. So why paint it at all today.

My neighbour wouldn't have either, I have seen him out on his farm 10 times in 15 months, and I don't go anywhere much. He doesn't give a toss, about his thistles or his sheep or his fences.. I probably think that he's lazy after reading that bit, but I still spend plenty of time on here.
Doing stuff is expensive.

 

[Steevo]

@Blod once described our farming as "old fashioned" so I must be an "old fashioned farmer" as apposed to a "modern" one
Would that mean I am not lazy by default ? @Thomas5060

Too lazy to change

 

[Henarar]

Too lazy to change

I never did work out if I should take Flower's comment as an insult or a complement
But think there is plenty to learn from the old boys so perhaps a complement ?

 

[hindmaist]

"Take your time and make a good job".A phrase seldom heard on farms these days.

 

[Thomas5060]

Before any one thinks I'm really harsh, I do give credit where credit is due. One farm in particular stands out in this area. A mixed farm which is around 500-600, farmer by 2 brothers and a son with 2 or 3 works and the place is exemplary. The yard is immaculate, the stock is well cared for and always have plenty of grass. The fields are worked i.e. Topped, rolled, sprayed and sower with fert. Even the ground they rent gets treated as if it's their own. The reason I know this is because we do digger work for the man that owns some of the rented ground and we see them work it etc

 

[JD-Kid]

i can earn 65 a hour scrub cutting and i pay fencer 35 a hour ummmmmm guess it's working smarter

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Before any one thinks I'm really harsh, I do give credit where credit is due. One farm in particular stands out in this area. A mixed farm which is around 500-600, farmer by 2 brothers and a son with 2 or 3 works and the place is exemplary. The yard is immaculate, the stock is well cared for and always have plenty of grass. The fields are worked i.e. Topped, rolled, sprayed and sower with fert. Even the ground they rent gets treated as if it's their own. The reason I know this is because we do digger work for the man that owns some of the rented ground and we see them work it etc

I love looking at places like that.
I used to try and do exactly that, every blade of grass cut down and neat as a pin..

Then we bought a place, I walk most of it, most of the time.
I cut silage early, and gave the roadsides a buzz, and put the mower away.
I didn't put on fert or spray because it doesn't want any, and haven't driven the tractor on any grassland in months, last time was to rescue a branch off a fence, on the last dry spell: I don't want to compact the soil if I don't have to..
I see all that buzzing now, as expensive and unnecessary now I foot the bills.
I could have done some topping, and then I'd be out of grass by winter, run less hoggets, and burnt more fuel..

Paddocks look neat now, grubbed all the thistles I know of, and the ground is so loose I can hear the last rain sucking the air in.

Something drastic changed when we bought a farm. My whole outlook on farming changed, I think perhaps I got that "old fashioned" bug too. I keep off the land a lot more.

 

[JWL]

Don't forget that there's a lot of farming that can be done when leaning on that gate with the bit of straw in your mouth taking stock of where you are with everything

 

[Henarar]

i can earn 65 a hour scrub cutting and i pay fencer 35 a hour ummmmmm guess it's working smarter

that depends if your 65 a hour is profit or just what you charge ?

 

[Will Blackburn]

Before any one thinks I'm really harsh, I do give credit where credit is due. One farm in particular stands out in this area. A mixed farm which is around 500-600, farmer by 2 brothers and a son with 2 or 3 works and the place is exemplary. The yard is immaculate, the stock is well cared for and always have plenty of grass. The fields are worked i.e. Topped, rolled, sprayed and sower with fert. Even the ground they rent gets treated as if it's their own. The reason I know this is because we do digger work for the man that owns some of the rented ground and we see them work it etc

600 hectares?
3 or 6 working it?

 

[Henarar]

https://www.facebook.com/LegendaryF...1825.523712054317756/1482838951738390/?type=3

 

[Blod]

@Henarar it was an observation. Your style of Farming suits your farm and you , and your stock are fit. (Thought hard about the punctuation) .

 

[Henarar]

@Henarar it was an observation. Your style of Farming suits your farm and you , and your stock are fit. (Thought hard about the punctuation) .

well you could hardly call me "fit" whatever way you mean it

I know it was an observation, just stuck in my mind

 

[ThatsSomeSheep]

Doesn't have to be bread, can be fadge

As good a way as any to get you up in the morning I bet!

TSS

 

[Thomas5060]

600 hectares?
3 or 6 working it?

Acres, and 3 and then 1 full time worker and a few part time

 

[multi power]

I never did work out if I should take Flower's comment as an insult or a complement
But think there is plenty to learn from the old boys so perhaps a complement ?

But you have tractors with cabs , radio and all that fancy malarkey, so how can that be old fashioned?

 

[Henarar]

But you have tractors with cabs , radio and all that fancy malarkey, so how can that be old fashioned?

most of it don't work