Arla

[dinderleat]

Anyone seen that Arla are looking into producing plant based alternatives?! Producing a product to directly compete with dairy products produced from a company owned by dairy farmers...it's going to confuse consumers and surely put more pressure on dairy businesses that Arla rely on

Why would it put pressure on dairy businesses? If Arla don’t produce a product won’t just someone else do it and Surely if there is a margin in this category which is growing year on year, with the expertise that Arla have. Arla could produce a high quality superior product.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Anyone seen that Arla are looking into producing plant based alternatives?! Producing a product to directly compete with dairy products produced from a company owned by dairy farmers...it's going to confuse consumers and surely put more pressure on dairy businesses that Arla rely on

I hadn't seen but I'm not that surprised. Alpro, which must be one of the biggest brands in the plant based sector, is owned by Danone

 

[Hookwood]

https://www.milkbusiness.com/articl...ions-about-dfa-producing-plant-based-products

 

[Chips]

Nice to think that when a vegan or flexitarian has a plant based drink they're indirectly helping to drive the milk price up due to arla being a co-operative

 

[Cows 'n grass]

De packaging code ES means that the product which is inside is produced or packed in Spain. The packaging code belongs to http://www.fruselva.com/

Thanks. It's interesting to know that they are made in Spain. I wonder if Arla ship bulk yoghurt to Spain for packaging or whether these are made under the Arla brand but not using Arla milk.

We have been buying this range as well. These are part of the same "Explorers" range as the yoghurt pouches but are made in Finland.

 

[bar718]

Thanks. It's interesting to know that they are made in Spain. I wonder if Arla ship bulk yoghurt to Spain for packaging or whether these are made under the Arla brand but not using Arla milk.

We have been buying this range as well. These are part of the same "Explorers" range as the yoghurt pouches but are made in Finland.

It is contract processed for us using arla products to make it as we do not have the exact plant needed as of yet so easier to test the market with contract processors than invest money only to find they don’t sell .

 

[jerseycowsman]

Anyone seen that Arla are looking into producing plant based alternatives?! Producing a product to directly compete with dairy products produced from a company owned by dairy farmers...it's going to confuse consumers and surely put more pressure on dairy businesses that Arla rely on

I very much doubt it, it’s mission is to collect and sell all its owners milk for the most money

 

[stablegirl]

I very much doubt it, it’s mission is to collect and sell all its owners milk for the most money

I believe Arla do supply plant based products, it caused much fuss at last years meeting until they explained if they didnt someone else would.

They said that if they supply it they can control the narrative and not push it, if they let someone else in to the likes of Starbucks they will have to compete against them.

This was met with a pragmatic repose where the vast majority of producers were happy, they also pointed out it was lucrative and everyone liked the idea that even the people not buying dairy were supporting dairy farmers.

 

[jerseycowsman]

I believe Arla do supply plant based products, it caused much fuss at last years meeting until they explained if they didnt someone else would.

They said that if they supply it they can control the narrative and not push it, if they let someone else in to the likes of Starbucks they will have to compete against them.

This was met with a pragmatic repose where the vast majority of producers were happy, they also pointed out it was lucrative and everyone liked the idea that even the people not buying dairy were supporting dairy farmers.

Oh yes, that last sentence fills me with satisfaction too!

 

[bar718]

I very much doubt it, it’s mission is to collect and sell all its owners milk for the most money

Yes Arla are looking further into doing their own range of healthy non dairy alternatives ( I don’t want to use the word milk in this sentence but you know what I mean ). Arla has the knowledge and expertise and infrastructure to develop a healthy dairy alternative and the margins in that market are like the bottled water market, very good indeed. Why let all the dairy alternative companies make the unhealthy drinks when we already have the knowledge of the ingredients needed to make a healthy and more sustainable alternative which if this is done right will be as @stablegirl says very lucrative for Arla members and utilise existing infrastructure.

 

[dairyrow]

Nice to think that when a vegan or flexitarian has a plant based drink they're indirectly helping to drive the milk price up due to arla being a co-operative

I think you'll find out. That's exactly the same reason they might give not to buy it too!

 

[jerseycowsman]

I think you'll find out. That's exactly the same reason they might give not to buy it too!

Hmm, they all think it’s brilliant when kfc or Burger King sell beyond meat burgers because the plonkers think it means they are winning, when really they are just being taken for a ride!

 

[coomoo]

After this weeks regional meetings can I just say how impressed and filled with confidence I feel having Peder Tuborg at the helm. As a farmer owner it was great to listen to his thoughts and wider aims for the co op.

 

[John1975]

Couldn't agree more. Its about time we as farmers part of a coop started taking the lead over issues like male calves, carbon etc

 

[Farmer Keith]

Any chat at the regional meetings about the seasonality scheme? I never had the time to go down to one.

Seriously considering switching to 100% spring production as it’s not covering the additional feed cost/reduced production of the autumns vs the springs. My refusal to feed soya has somewhat exasperated the situation this autumn. Just thinking that spring production looks a lot better for the planet at the moment.

Currently 1/3 spring 2/3 autumn

 

[frederick]

Any chat at the regional meetings about the seasonality scheme? I never had the time to go down to one.

Seriously considering switching to 100% spring production as it’s not covering the additional feed cost/reduced production of the autumns vs the springs. My refusal to feed soya has somewhat exasperated the situation this autumn. Just thinking that spring production looks a lot better for the planet at the moment.

Currently 1/3 spring 2/3 autumn

Seasonality appears fairly quiet.

However carbon footprint is ramping up.

Not entirely sure spring calving will get a clean bill of health when the numbers come in. A lot is down to the cows contribution and I'm not sure a low yielding spring cow will be able to dilute her output as well as a high yielder.

I think it is difficult to quantify the numbers but we will hopefully be in a better place to understand in 12 months time when the data is in.

 

[Farmer Keith]

Seasonality appears fairly quiet.

However carbon footprint is ramping up.

Not entirely sure spring calving will get a clean bill of health when the numbers come in. A lot is down to the cows contribution and I'm not sure a low yielding spring cow will be able to dilute her output as well as a high yielder.

I think it is difficult to quantify the numbers but we will hopefully be in a better place to understand in 12 months time when the data is in.

Depends if they take carbon sequestration of the grazing ground in to account I suppose and conversly the amount of carbon released growing energy/protein crops for autumns. I’m not sure there’s any scientific consensus so it’ll be interesting to see what they come up with.

Another thing to look at would surely be weather or not it would be possible to retain some more of the protein we lose ensiling grass with a change in technique or potentially an additive?

 

[lazy farmer]

Depends if they take carbon sequestration of the grazing ground in to account I suppose and conversly the amount of carbon released growing energy/protein crops for autumns. I’m not sure there’s any scientific consensus so it’ll be interesting to see what they come up with.

Another thing to look at would surely be weather or not it would be possible to retain some more of the protein we lose ensiling grass with a change in technique or potentially an additive?

Any stocking rat above a cow per acre is not sequestrating any carbon

 

[sidjon]

Any stocking rat above a cow per acre is not sequestrating any carbon

We've just purchased some organic land and would suggest under a cow acre is mining much faster than us at a higher SR.

 

[Farmer Keith]

Any stocking rat above a cow per acre is not sequestrating any carbon

The theory is that the more grass you grow the more carbon you sequester, but I assume you mean that on average when you get over 1 cow per acre you will be bringing extra feed onto the farm pushing you beyond the sweet spot? Every farm will have a different sweet spot depending on grass growth you’d suppose.