Arla

[jerseycowsman]

Well I think there's 3 processors in Cornwall paying more than Arla[emoji848][emoji15]

I like my evergreen contract, I like the freedom in my contract to produce what I like when I like (there maybe price penalties, but I can deal with that).
And before Arla came along those jokers were consistently paying 3 or 4 ppl less than the European average. Now all of a sudden they are paying the same as Europe or more.
I'm glad I'm not so desperate I don't have to sell my milk to them

 

[Holsteinfriesian90]

I like my evergreen contract, I like the freedom in my contract to produce what I like when I like (there maybe price penalties, but I can deal with that).
And before Arla came along those jokers were consistently paying 3 or 4 ppl less than the European average. Now all of a sudden they are paying the same as Europe or more.
I'm glad I'm not so desperate I don't have to sell my milk to them

Thought you would have been a roddas man.

 

[jerseycowsman]

Thought you would have been a roddas man.

Nope!
Don't get me wrong, I like nick. But as you can see from my post, I am not leaving a farmer owned coop.
I thought they would have offered a stable price, or a profit share, if they truly wanted to help the Cornish farmer. But it was just the same old, I'm not jumping through all those hopes for that

 

[Fergieman]

Arla Foods dairy company is proposing to relocate or terminate 22 jobs at its Lockerbie factory.

The farmer-owned company is planning to transfer a proportion of its butter operation to a factory in Westbury.

South Scotland MSP Colin Smyth has expressed 'deep concern' over the proposals:

I am deeply concerned at the prospect of 22 job losses in Lockerbie. There has been a lot of investment in the plant in recent years and it is hugely important for the many local farmers whose milk goes to the site. But most importantly it is a major employer in the Lockerbie area. Any jobs losses will be a tragedy for those affected and a real blow to the local economy at what is a very uncertain time for many companies. If any of the current workforce do have to leave, I will be strongly urging Arla to avoid at all costs compulsory redundancies.

– Colin Smyth MSP
The company still plans to produce Scottish butter and whey butter at its Lockerbie plant, and the proposals will not affect milk collection from local farms.

Jim Grieve, site director at Arla’s Lockerbie site said:

We are looking to minimise the impact of the proposal through a variety of measures. We hope to be able to transfer 12 colleagues to other vacant roles at our site, as well as look at whether we can fill vacant positions at other Arla sites, including Westbury. At the same time, we are considering applications for voluntary redundancy from the site. We are committed to doing everything we can to support our colleagues at this time.

As a farmer-owned dairy company, our mission is to add value to every litre of milk from our farmer owners and this proposal will enable both Lockerbie and Westbury sites to focus and develop their relevant dairy production expertise going forward.

 

[jockthethistle]

I'm sure ARLA will have good news coming soon enough ... 30 months of falling prices will have exhausted us all. .' Times they are a'changing ' .. Well done to Dylan too .. can hardly believe he's still alive. jtt

 

[Einstien]

There's not really any point comparing prices at the moment as prices are changing all the time, An average price say over two years is a better way to compare prices,

Did an Arla rep tell you this (then realise even over two years their manufacturing price is diabolical with all their efficient processing claims)

 

[jockthethistle]

Compare with large Muller producers central Scotland. They should be around 24 p November ... Arla now will they get close ...jtt

 

[jockthethistle]

ps I'm not with muller

 

[RobFZS]

Arla really do know their stuff, friend on facebook did a post on her having an issue eating dairy products as it makes her ill, link her to arla lacto free and there's all sorts on the websites, recipes etc hopefully they will expand that range so people don't have to quit dairy altogether and go to alternatives.

 

[dinderleat]

Did an Arla rep tell you this (then realise even over two years their manufacturing price is diabolical with all their efficient processing claims)

No, hasn't everybody's been really diabolical. Trouble is everybody seems to follow arla's price rather than setting their own.

 

[Fergieman]

No, hasn't everybody's been really diabolical. Trouble is everybody seems to follow arla's price rather than setting their own.

and their suppliers blame Arla for holding their price down!!

 

[Einstien]

Is it not as simple as a couple of big buys being price takers (well if you believe what they say) trying to steel market share off each other - then a load of smaller processors around them accepting a slightly smaller margin in order to supply smaller contracts....

At least Arla is "Farmer Owned" Laugh all the way to the bank don't you?????

 

[dinderleat]

It's a good USP that others don't have, so it does help us when selling products.
At the moment it's more like crying all the way to bank, but try to carry on if you want to keep dairy farming or give up. But it will get better over the next few months for everybody I hope!?

 

[Sid]

It's a good USP that others don't have, so it does help us when selling products.
At the moment it's more like crying all the way to bank, but try to carry on if you want to keep dairy farming or give up. But it will get better over the next few months for everybody I hope!?

Dairy Crest was farmer owned
Yeo Yalley is farmer owned
OMSCO is farmer owned
Wyke is farmer owned
And there must be others.

Interesting discovered cravendale took 10 to pay back! That seems a long time to me and has since been copied and lost market share.

Edit

But not all the milk bought and processed comes from its owners. It buys in milk from 3rd parties and that isn't to Arlagarden standard either?

 

[dinderleat]

I didn't say Arla was the only one just that others couldn't use it, Wyke and yeo valley aren't really the same as Arla as the are both plc's and do not return the profits made from producers milk back to them, they only pay what they need too, to keep them.
Not all products need to be arlagarden standard as @fergiman has explained same way yeo valley don't just process organic milk.

 

[jerseycowsman]

Befo

Is it not as simple as a couple of big buys being price takers (well if you believe what they say) trying to steel market share off each other - then a load of smaller processors around them accepting a slightly smaller margin in order to supply smaller contracts....

At least Arla is "Farmer Owned" Laugh all the way to the bank don't you?????

Before Arla arrived was the average British milk price above or below europes?

 

[Einstien]

Befo

Before Arla arrived was the average British milk price above or below europes?

Your mad if you think Arla arriving has had any effect on the UK Milk/Europe Milk price ratio...

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Your mad if you think Arla arriving has had any effect on the UK Milk/Europe Milk price ratio...

Please explain.

 

[Cowmangav]

First Milk would be entirely farmer owned , not that anyone here seems to remember.

 

[jerseycowsman]

Your mad if you think Arla arriving has had any effect on the UK Milk/Europe Milk price ratio...

So why did the gap suddenly close to nothing when Arla and milk link joined then?