Ash Die Back & new Woodland

BrianV

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Dartmoor
Anyone noticed just how many Ash trees are now dead, down in our part of Devon 95% of all Ash trees died last Autumn but because it was near the time for leaves to fall not many people took any notice, now with spring we are able to see the total devastation of virtually all our Ash trees. When considering joining up with the new woodland scheme just be aware that with the multitude of tree diseases now being imported be prepared that a huge amount of the trees that you plant will die & you will be responsible to keep replacing them.
 
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renewablejohn

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Location
lancs
Any one noticed just how many Ash trees are now dead, down in our part of Devon 95% of all Ash trees died last Autumn but because it was near the time for leaves to fall not many people took any notice, now with spring we are able to see the total devastation of virtually all our Ash trees. When considering joining up with the new woodland scheme just be aware that with the multitude of tree diseases now being imported be prepared that a huge amount of the trees that you plant will die & you will be responsible to keep replacing them.
Forestry Commission did not like the suggestion that I would replace the dead ash with spruce.
 

toquark

Member
Ash Dieback is grim, we’ve lost about 50% last year, waiting to see what flushes this spring before we get handy with the saw. I had a few nervous nights when the wind was blowing as there are some dodgy specimens along a roadside which were alive last year but will probably be dead now or soon.
 

Longlowdog

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
I got a real wallop of it two years ago (in my F.W.G woodlands about 20 years old), very few died but it resulted in lots of epicormic growths and the trees now look like bog brushes. I'll leave them a couple of years before deliberately felling the lot but during thinning I'm now concentrating on affected Ash even if they had good form and leaving poorer Oak that once would have been cut to let a decent Ash grow.
You can't include Ash in any new planting as nurseries can't sell it now due to a ban on the movement of all live Ash and that includes all varieties not just F. Excelsior.
 

egbert

Member
Livestock Farmer
Anyone noticed just how many Ash trees are now dead, down in our part of Devon 95% of all Ash trees died last Autumn but because it was near the time for leaves to fall not many people took any notice, now with spring we are able to see the total devastation of virtually all our Ash trees. When considering joining up with the new woodland scheme just be aware that with the multitude of tree diseases now being imported be prepared that a huge amount of the trees that you plant will die & you will be responsible to keep replacing them.
spread your bets
 

Longlowdog

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
I would argue that my trees are 'one location' and wouldn't hesitate to scatter Ash keys from unaffected trees in the bigger gaps left by diseased trees to find out if they were resistant to the die back or just not affected yet.
 

topground

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
North Somerset.
But it’s early for leaves on ash trees. As for firewood from diseased trees, I’m told there won’t be much to burn, if you leave them too long with the disease!!
What does ash die back do to firewood yield? I have a number of large mature ash trees that are not yet in leaf and if they are obviously dead what stage should I knock them over for firewood?
 

Longlowdog

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Aberdeenshire
Ash dry or Ash green, makes a fire fit for a queen. Get them in the shed when you can. Ash wood is not very durable outside so it might as well be in a shed drying out all summer. Just remember to take a photo when everything else around is green so that when the Karens complain about you killing the noble trees you have proof they were dead.
 

renewablejohn

Member
Location
lancs
What does ash die back do to firewood yield? I have a number of large mature ash trees that are not yet in leaf and if they are obviously dead what stage should I knock them over for firewood?
As soon as possible. Be wary of climbing any diseased trees as the branches go brittle quickly. A lot of tree surgeons now use platforms to dismantle large Ash with die back due to the safety issues.
 

Bald n Grumpy

Member
Livestock Farmer
What does ash die back do to firewood yield? I have a number of large mature ash trees that are not yet in leaf and if they are obviously dead what stage should I knock them over for firewood?
Asap have heard of the tops shattering and coming straight down on the man doing the felling
 

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