Avian flu Protection Measures in force.

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
A neighbour and I have done a pre-record for Look East tonight, always difficult to get your point across clearly, be interesting to see what makes it through the editing room!

Another farmer I know is on live, 6.30pm. Miss it, miss out!
Can you post a link for those of us out of area?
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
This is all becoming a bit of a joke really. It's obviously no joke for those inside the blobs. Someone like the NFU should be seriously questioning the way that these blobs are laid out @Guy Smith . If you look the iPlayer link above you have one guy in the clear and another 3 fields away facing a very serious problem. That is not right but it's typical. Can the NFU help here?
 

Daniel

Member
This is all becoming a bit of a joke really. It's obviously no joke for those inside the blobs. Someone like the NFU should be seriously questioning the way that these blobs are laid out @Guy Smith . If you look the iPlayer link above you have one guy in the clear and another 3 fields away facing a very serious problem. That is not right but it's typical. Can the NFU help here?

The NFU poultry rep is a chap called Gary Ford, he's onside though DEFRA don't appear to be listening as yet. Lobbying from the BEIC and BFREPA is underway today.
 

Guy Smith

Member
Location
Essex
This is all becoming a bit of a joke really. It's obviously no joke for those inside the blobs. Someone like the NFU should be seriously questioning the way that these blobs are laid out @Guy Smith . If you look the iPlayer link above you have one guy in the clear and another 3 fields away facing a very serious problem. That is not right but it's typical. Can the NFU help here?

Good to see Gary Ford getting a positive mention.

More information here

https://www.nfuonline.com/sectors/poultry/
 

simon w

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Hayling Island
This is very bad news and makes a mockery of DEFRA`s higher risk area map. Perhaps now they will realise they can only lift the housing order when the whole country is clear. If it means not labeling eggs as free range then we must press for an extension from the EU.We cannot risk spreading this disease further especially after present measures have helped to restrict the spread.​
 

JP1

Member
Livestock Farmer
This is very bad news and makes a mockery of DEFRA`s higher risk area map. Perhaps now they will realise they can only lift the housing order when the whole country is clear. If it means not labeling eggs as free range then we must press for an extension from the EU.We cannot risk spreading this disease further especially after present measures have helped to restrict the spread.​

The easiest thing would be for a UK Government to grant free range status for those having to house birds under their restrictions. No farmer has withdrawn the free range facilities, just that they can't be used
 

Wheatonrotty

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
MK43
The problem comes with the public perception of free range if this drags on for several months. You only need the media to be looking for something to report and decide to push the fact that free range birds are being housed and it could have long term effects on sales.
That said I'm not really sure what the answer is, obviously if it's pretty much just in migrating birds then then the problem will disappear for a while at least. If it becomes endemic in our native birds then a complete rethink will be necessary.
We are currently planning turkeys for this year half our sheds are fully enclosed so no problem but the others are half open so will see how things go as to whether we fully or half stock them.
 
I think they will allow birds out on 1st march and then there will be another housing order on the 2nd of march!
Eggs are only classed as barn if housed continuously for 12 weeks!
That's what I would do anyway!
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
The easiest thing would be for a UK Government to grant free range status for those having to house birds under their restrictions. No farmer has withdrawn the free range facilities, just that they can't be used
Sets a precedent though doesn't it? What else can we ignore if circumstances are not ideal? If it's not free range, it's not free range. The solution has to be wider, not just changing the boundaries.
 

Kidds

Member
Horticulture
I have my sympathies for the free range producers but the barn egg producers wouldn't be very pleased about any premium over their produce for free range.
As a consumer I have the same sympathies but why am I paying more for free range over barn eggs when they haven't been outside?

Besides all that, if this strain is so virulent that all backyard flocks must be kept in etc how come all the wild geese and ducks haven't died? The way this virus is talked about I would expect the obvious carnage myxy brought on the rabbit population when it first appeared.
 

Pasty

Member
Location
Devon
I disagree. These are exceptional circumstances
I would suggest that it's going to be common in the future though. I think there are going to be many more autumn / winters like this one in the years to come. It's bleak but it's what we have created. If we start to ease the standard for free range, where does it end?

If not 1st March, what date do we set as the cut off for free range? I know a lot of money is riding on this but that is part of the problem. Maybe there shouldn't be so much money riding on it. So what new date do we set?
 

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