Bad tempered bull......

Location
cumbria
Have to agree with the get rid, life's too short as it is. No need to make it shorter.

That said, these chaps who pay the big bucks for bulls must have a certain tolerance for behaviour. I guess they would be in a dedicated facility though.
 

milkloss

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
East Sussex
Sorry to say I agree with most. He will have to go. We had a rotebunde bull and how we got away with no damage to machine or person I will never know. Actually, take that back, he did feck the landrover a little when he decided it would be fun to lift the front bumper off the ground so we had to basically ram him in the face to prevent that game. Oh, then there was the quad. Never go within 30 yards or he was on you like the flick of a gnats left bollock. BOSH!!! You always had to have the bike in 4wd or when he tagged it and got the back wheels off the ground and you couldn't get away so he'd roll it. Luckily he just messed with the bike and never chased you across the field.

Now he's done it to you he will do it again so do be careful.
 
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Would something like this be 100% safe?? No access required and separate pen for bulling cows with sliding gate for seperation.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
How do they become aggressive?

My present bull is coming up to two years old and can be a bit defensive if a cow is bulling but I'd except that. He doesn't really bother with me otherwise. I like to keep him running with other cattle at all times. I'd never ever trust him and have a strong handling system which means I don't have to face him.

Everybody says I should have a bull pen and all that but from what I've seen, if they weren't aggressive before they went in the pen, they were when they came out.
 

Ballygreenan

Member
Location
Tyrone NI
A bull is replaceable, either with another one of better temperament or preferably with a flask of liquid nitrogen.

You, my friend, are not replaceable, you're the only one of you there is or ever will be. Take a look at your family and friends and loved ones and ask yourself how would life be for them if you were no longer here.

Too many have lost their lives because they insisted on keeping a bull that had already taken a go at them because they thought he was too good to hang by his heels. Be assured that the first thing that would happen IF he were to get the better of you would be a lead tablet, therefore the bull and you would be dead, albeit he may have sired a few more calves, but what value a few extra calves over your own life?

Immediate appointment with Ronnie McDonald for him, don't delay.
 

coomoo

Member
I don't have any bulls on farm but used to work on a top pedigree farm. He had bulls I wouldn't go near but they were in proper well thought out bull pens/races that put you in control. Always been really impressed with them. Think if your serious about fleckvick then possibly build some pens first?
 

Dry Rot

Member
Livestock Farmer
Quote, "I went in to pull out a dry cow".

I know next to nothing about cattle but I do know to secure my stallion before trying to remove one of his mares, not that he is vicious, just as a routine precaution.

I'd also question taking semen from him. These things are often genetic.

Same difference?
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Personally I wouldn't be breeding from an aggressive bull.

We had rigs in the past that were aggressive as hell and all went straight in the lorry. But can environment and handling make a placid bull aggressive? I don't know.

My present bull is afraid of sheep and broke a 6 inch post off and flattened a gate when he panicked trying to get away from one and ran into the local woods. Nightmare but got him back with a bag of feed along with his cows.
 

DrWazzock

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
Lincolnshire
Quote, "I went in to pull out a dry cow".

I know next to nothing about cattle but I do know to secure my stallion before trying to remove one of his mares, not that he is vicious, just as a routine precaution.

I'd also question taking semen from him. These things are often genetic.

Same difference?

Would you stand by if someone got hold of your Mrs?
 

Ballygreenan

Member
Location
Tyrone NI
Ask the breeder to replace it
I don't think that's fair, bull replacement for poor fertility or dodgy offspring yes but just because he turns nasty not really a valid reason. Before I switched to Ai we always beefed the bulls at the first hint of craziness.

I only ever managed to sell one bull on as a breeder, the last one before Ai started. And only once did I have to ask for money back off a breeder because a bull threw dodgy offspring.
 

Roy_H

Member
My father was almost killed by a cow and we did even think of putting her in calf again. She went into the fattening yard. Yeah as others have said, get rid!
 

Happy at it

Member
Location
NI
Got hit by a bull when I was young, learnt me such a lesson. Was pinned against a six foot wall and luckily he lifted me over it when hitting me. If I hadn't been, I honestly don't think he would've stopped....

If it's solely a money thing preventing getting rid, could it possibly be put through as loss of use on the bulls insurance. Whatever you need to do to enable you to make the decision to part him a reality, do it....
 

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