Strawgalore
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I'd sooner stand under one I'd made myself than one off the shelf, with that said what is anyone doing stood under a bag ??
I'd sooner stand under one I'd made myself than one off the shelf, with that said what is anyone doing stood under a bag ??
This idea of making your own is a strange one.
At the end of the day it will be made by a man in a workshop with a welder wether it’s a farm workshop or manufacturer workshop doesn’t matter.
It’s a piece of lifting equipment so should be tested regardless of who made it. Don’t see the issue if it’s done properly.
I think I meant ce mark from manufacturer rather than load tested but yes you are quite correct.New items such as bag lifters come under the EC Machinery directive, which means they should be fitted with a CE mark.
This is a self certification process based around a risk assessment. Basically the manufacturer should design the machine with a factor of safety built in, carry out structural calculations to ensure it is strong enough in areas that matter - i.e. check the lifting arms won't bend, the brackets won't shear off etc. The first machine should then be tested to ensure those calcs were correct.
There is no requirement to have it tested by an external authority.
Under the LOLER regulations every piece of lifting equipment must be inspected before first use and annually thereafter. HOWEVER, CE marked items do not need inspecting before first use as they6 have gone through the above process. But, if you buy new then weld the brackets on yourself, then the CE mark no longer applies and you need it LOLER tested.
If you build it a machine and get it LOLER tested, then all is well, there is no legal issue.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg422.pdf
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Under the LOLER regulations every piece of lifting equipment must be inspected before first use and annually thereafter. HOWEVER, CE marked items do not need inspecting before first use as they6 have gone through the above process. But, if you buy new then weld the brackets on yourself, then the CE mark no longer applies and you need it LOLER tested.
http://www.hse.gov.uk/pubns/indg422.pdf
Would not be covered by the ce once you have modified itFlat 8 grab converted to telehandler brackets ??
Flat 8 grab converted to telehandler brackets ??
Would not be covered by the ce once you have modified it
As above, should be LOLER tested after the coversion is complete and before it is used, then yearly thereafter.
Would not be covered by the ce once you have modified it
Telehandler IS approved by Vulcan so simply include it on next test then ? Strange the tester never wanted to see any attachments other than pallet tines....
Must be 1000's on tractor loaders.
Possibly not, however as I said above that CE mark only means it does not need inspecting before first use when brand new. The CE mark basically means it can be sold across Europe and the government of whatever particular country it is sold in knows a certain procedure has been followed to protect users and others from the product etc etc. After the first use that CE mark effectively means diddly squat safety wise.Would an ancient farmhand flat 8 grab which was probably made in the States even be CE marked.
Basically it's all about being able to pass the buck