Baler PTO speed

[DrDunc]

Anyone else run their tractor in 540eco, and run the baler PTO shaft at 600rpm?

 

[mo!]

Always run in eco, no 540 on my tractor.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I do everything in eco

 

[tinman]

I don't know what kind of baler your asking about but in my case I run the round baler in 540 eco between 600 and 650 rpm, in most grass she runs smoother at them speeds.

 

[Cmoran]

Same here at least 600rpm it seems way smoother

 

[Chae1]

Run my v660 at 590-600rpm too, on 540 eco.

 

[Frankzy]

Run all our Fusions in 540 eco with around 590 - 600 on the shaft

 

[Wellytrack]

Run fusion at 560rpm in standard 540 shaft. Keep the torque up.

 

[sawdust]

Run fusion at 560rpm in standard 540 shaft. Keep the torque up.

I was going to ask, does nobody bale on steep ground, because reversing to put a bale out on steep ground kills the engine, at low revs!

 

[Boohoo]

Run a Fusion 3 in 540 eco with the auto throttle set for 560 pto rpm. No problem on steep ground

 

[BDBed]

Fusion vario here in 540 eco running around 580ish.

 

[KB6930]

I have to run in eco with my v660 or the clutch will kick out too much with the tractor at higher revs but in eco it usually pulls the tractor back a bit first

 

[DrDunc]

I was going to ask, does nobody bale on steep ground, because reversing to put a bale out on steep ground kills the engine, at low revs!

Depends upon the engine a bit maybe?

Run mine at 1800rpm which means the baler is running about 590rpm.

The engine is pretty much constant power between 1550 and 2100 rpm, so yes you've to watch reversing to cross hills, but it's still the same power as standard 540, just not as wide a power band.

Other engine brands can have the power band between say 2200 and 1800rpm. With these in 540e running just below 1800rpm, you're already out of the peak power and onto a falling torque output. They could struggle reversing uphill?

Or maybe it's just how often you're used to reversing uphill to place a bale. With ground like mine, you get a lot of practice.




My other thought on the matter is while the tractor engine may not be at its peak output, for the same horse power the baler input torque is lower running at 600rpm than when at 540.

 

[Frankzy]

I was going to ask, does nobody bale on steep ground, because reversing to put a bale out on steep ground kills the engine, at low revs!

We bale a few fields that are steep enough to use as skiing hills in the winter but I've never had a problem with reversing while in 540 eco with the mf 7495's.
We even did a field like that with a Deutz 6160.4 once and while you certainly missed the longer wheelbase and weight of the 7495 the Deutz had no lack of power in 540 eco...

 

[Pistonbroke]

McHale rep told me that the claas 354 we have spins the bale faster to make up for having less rollers and takes more power and fuel. Then said to run the McHale at 600 to 620 to do a good job,which defeated the object,I thought. Just to confuse things,ours is on 1000 pto

 

[sawdust]

McHale rep told me that the claas 354 we have spins the bale faster to make up for having less rollers and takes more power and fuel. Then said to run the McHale at 600 to 620 to do a good job,which defeated the object,I thought. Just to confuse things,ours is on 1000 pto

I worked a 355 a couple of weeks ago, it too was 1000 pto but the pickup seemed faster than the 255 on 570 pto.

 

[Pistonbroke]

I've only bales alongside a McHale once and my bales look more "rolled" from the centre which could well be from spinning faster.

 

[l'ordinary bonville]

This might sound like a stupid question but how much ground can a round baler cover an hour or how many 4’6 bales in decent barley

 

[tinman]

I was going to ask, does nobody bale on steep ground, because reversing to put a bale out on steep ground kills the engine, at low revs!

It all depends on how many horses you have in front of the baler, low HP in eco and you will notice it on a hill alright, you'll miss the weight too.
I have 170, if they are all standing, on a vario transmission so a hill doesn't really bother them too much.

 

[wdah/him]

I normally run the mchale here at about 480-500rpm, standard shaft as I have no eco, haven't had problems apart from on hills but it is only on a mf 6180.

roundpack was run at 420, find need the extra revs for the McHale, what benefit would I get running the McHale at 600rpm