Is that sentient consciousness tho or just reflex?
Ban Non stun slaughter
- Thread starter On_The_News
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I would be interested to see that evidence because I believed that humans lost consciousness as soon as the blood supply stopped. Like how a fighter pilot blacks out in a high ‘G’ manoeuvre.
I am totally opposed to non - stun slaughter.
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- Aberdeenshire
Sentient. Well assume you consider animal life as sentient....
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- Aberdeenshire
Are you suggesting we restart the trial's?
I've a few people in mind that you could start with....
Track down the footage obtained in the AgriProcessors plant in Iowa, of non stunned cattle slaughtering.
Then make your own mind up as to how sentient the animals were as they stumbled around the release pen awaiting unconsciousness.
It is one of the most disturbing things I have seen.
Then make your own mind up as to how sentient the animals were as they stumbled around the release pen awaiting unconsciousness.
It is one of the most disturbing things I have seen.
ollie989898
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This is a myth. Halal allows pre-stunning and always has.
Yes I do but not to the same extent as humans.
Were they asking them to blink or poking them in the eye?
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- Aberdeenshire
Blink and look at things.
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- England
The least we can do when eating meat is ensure that animals are treated as humanely and fairly as possible. I'm no expert but whatever the least stressful or painful method should be the single method for dispatch/stun. Whatever anyone does with the meat after that is irrelevant.
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
I would google that statement Ollie, many Muslims believe any form of stunning is Haram
Exfarmer
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- Location
- Bury St Edmunds
It would seem Jewish Kosher and Muslim Halal rules are virtually identical
- Location
- Staffordshire Moorlands
It's over 90% of sheep slaughtered, pre stunned that is.
Castle Farm
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My uncles had a slaughter house (Early 60's) They used captive bolt on everything. The cattle would drop and be bled out. Sheep done on a floor rack. Pigs pulled down to a floor ring. I was not allowed in when they did veal.
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- Staffordshire Moorlands
This, 100%.
Jews will only consume fore quarter meat, so where are the hind quarters going. Someone's buying it unbeknown. Firstly the method it was killed and secondly, another religion has blessed it.
I'm not the most travelled of folk but I've never seen any labelled as such.
Thats a misleading and weird couple of statements. As far as I'm aware neither option 1 or 2 is even a real thing.
And yes animals/ people are conscious after having their throats slit. I've seen lambs bleating their lil hearts out after having their throats slit in halal slaughter houses, its pretty horrific. All of which is kinda annoying as I love a lamb doner kebab but don't want to be supporting sick and unnecessary suffering of animals. What to do? Ask for halal free meat?
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- Lincolnshire
65% of UK animals going into the halal sector are pre-stunned.
0% of uk animals going into the schieta sector are pre-stunned.
They are current RSPCA figures.
2018 BVA figures from the FSA were closer to 59% halal.
Still 0% schieta.
(https://assets.publishing.service.g.../file/778588/slaughter-method-survey-2018.pdf)
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- Staffordshire Moorlands
The AHDB meeting I attended the chap stated it was over 90% pre stunned halal.
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- Ardrossan Ayrshire
Was that sheep or all species?
- Location
- Staffordshire Moorlands
Only 5% of halal beef was killed on the UK. Rest was from abroad.
Sure he was just on sheep numbers.