BASE AGM

[155tm]

really good photo that one Clive ;-)

was the CS roped off area to keep them in or to keep them out??

Wolfgang Sturney ; http://www.no-till.ch/ is the Swiss no-till website, you will have to put it into google translate & see what you can find. He also recommended looking on youtube for the farmer to farmer clips, I can't find what he showed us in the meeting though!!!! He also had a 5 yrs initial phase 5 yrs transitional phase 10-20yr consolidation phase for no-till theory. Patience required!

I went to sleep for the other three presentations but remember a vivid dream about a Cross Slot & John Deere drill in the same field.......

 

[Feldspar]

My presentation had a picture of a claas AND a JD drilling at the same time!

He'd fallen asleep too by that point in your talk.

 

[Feldspar]

interesting that the survey showed 7 Base members are CS users - I suggested we had a special roped off VIP area at meetings and better selection of sandwiches for them

More sensible to just charge them three times the price of everyone else's membership but forget to tell them that they'll get the same benefits as everyone else...

 

[Feldspar]

I am once again getting quite anguished about cover crops. Kris Nichols really seems to say that they are very important and that just doing no-till isn't good enough.

 

[dontknowanything]

I am once again getting quite anguished about cover crops. Kris Nichols really seems to say that they are very important and that just doing no-till isn't good enough.

I really can't imagine you getting anguished over a decision

 

[Clive]

I am once again getting quite anguished about cover crops. Kris Nichols really seems to say that they are very important and that just doing no-till isn't good enough.

I reckon she's right - much as I would love "bugs in Jugs" to be the solution I am increasingly thinking its just a pee in the ocean - cover crops / livestock are the only way to get what we want in significant numbers..............and its cheaper, just harder work !

 

[ajd132]

I really can't imagine you getting anguished over a decision

I don't think it ever gets as far as a decision

 

[Clive]

I don't think it ever gets as far as a decision

I'm tempted to change his avatar for this

 

[ajd132]

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I imagine the deliberation process is more like this.

 

[dontknowanything]

I was wondering if anyone could give a precis of the BASE AGM. I think I have a fairly good idea what @dontknowanything and @Clive might have said (unless any surprises were thrown in). What about the Swiss no-till chap, and the Wheatsheaf farming chap? Any interesting lessons / take home messages?

I did at least have one slide you haven't seen before

 

[BSH]

To be a BASE member you need that quixotic and stand-out-from-the-crowd mentality that is quite at odds with the philosophy of Schoffel gilet accoutrement.

Schoffel gilet is the new mankini.

 

[Fred]

Wolfgang had a couple of cross slot moments , however as always with this event its the folks you meet who can give the most info ,
1 Can we no-till spring beans on heavy land with cover crops and successfully get a decent yield ?

 

[Feldspar]

Wolfgang had a couple of cross slot moments , however as always with this event its the folks you meet who can give the most info ,
1 Can we no-till spring beans on heavy land with cover crops and successfully get a decent yield ?

Why? Because they need to go in deeper and the soil at this depth takes ages to dry? I was kind of banking on spring beans as the one thing that avoids a lot of the Two Simons type effects.

 

[Feldspar]

I did at least have one slide you haven't seen before

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What about presenting the other side of the no-till argument?

 

[Feldspar]

As for the rest of the aspersions cast over my decision making ability, I'm considering my position.

I did finally decide whether to buy 035 or 04 nozzles yesterday after reviewing the academic literature over the last few weeks. This is a major decision I feel. I did have to ring up the shop to make a last minute swap though after new evidence came to light.

 

[dontknowanything]

What about presenting the other side of the no-till argument?

Ran out of time to sort it out.

 

[ajd132]

I got trials for no till spring beans with and without covers and cultivated. Having had 2014 yields 6.2t/ha and 2015 5.3t/ha (cultivated) and hearing many, many no till disasters with Spring beans it's going to be interesting to see.

 

[Feldspar]

@Clive, Part 6 follows Part 1. The second Part 1 is the same as Part 2. Part 5 is the same as Part 3, which follow Part 2.

Will update as I get through them. If I don't write it down, it all gets confusing.

 

[Clive]

@Clive, Part 6 follows Part 1. The second Part 1 is the same as Part 2. Part 5 is the same as Part 3.

thanks - will fix over the weekend

 

[Simon Chiles]

1 Can we no-till spring beans on heavy land with cover crops and successfully get a decent yield ?

Yes, also peas.