Battery Storage worth it? £75,000 rent, 4 acres

New to the group , sorry if I'm hijacking the thread, how do you go about finding a company that deals in Battery Storage? Google search doesn't reveal an awful lot. Reading some comments suggests they'll be looking for you already, no company has. I've a roadside field with a substation on it, 33kv (unofficially I was told by a workman 22kv in use, one 11kv spur free), overhead power lines to the substation, but I am on the edge of the village boundary , does that make a planning headache? I'm only a small farm, and enjoy doing it, but at those figures mentioned throughout the post , 4 acres is worth the diversification. Where do I start?

Has the sub got grid capacity, I v much doubt it. Sub also sounds small, I’d be astounded if you could make anything with 11Kva that stacks up financially.
 

Nimel

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Has the sub got grid capacity, I v much doubt it. Sub also sounds small, I’d be astounded if you could make anything with 11Kva that stacks up financially.
Thanks for your reply, I thought the whole point of battery storage was to release the stored energy back into the grid via the substation therefore using the whole 33kv and not just if it has a spare spur. I don't know how the grid works when you ask if" the sub has grid capacity". Best way I can describe it is rows of Pylons border my boundary (one inside of it) then there 3 overhead power lines on wooden poles making their way to the substation, the substation serving power to the adjacent village.
 

Farmer_England

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New to the group , sorry if I'm hijacking the thread, how do you go about finding a company that deals in Battery Storage? Google search doesn't reveal an awful lot. Reading some comments suggests they'll be looking for you already, no company has. I've a roadside field with a substation on it, 33kv (unofficially I was told by a workman 22kv in use, one 11kv spur free), overhead power lines to the substation, but I am on the edge of the village boundary , does that make a planning headache? I'm only a small farm, and enjoy doing it, but at those figures mentioned throughout the post , 4 acres is worth the diversification. Where do I start?
Although you say there is 11kv free, the actual grid in your area may be chocker. We have space, but our local substation is running at full capacity. I think it is a long term plan and said companies will be in contact if your area is in the right place and the it is economically viable for them.
Another reason if there is actually 11kv free, then the power battery storage companies may not be interested yet as there is no need to store power.
 

Farmer_England

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Thanks for your reply, I thought the whole point of battery storage was to release the stored energy back into the grid via the substation therefore using the whole 33kv and not just if it has a spare spur. I don't know how the grid works when you ask if" the sub has grid capacity". Best way I can describe it is rows of Pylons border my boundary (one inside of it) then there 3 overhead power lines on wooden poles making their way to the substation, the substation serving power to the adjacent village.
I am not sure the pylons you are talking about are suitable. I think the pylons needed are big steel anchor / t / branch pylons
 

Nimel

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I am not sure the pylons you are talking about are suitable. I think the pylons needed are big steel anchor / t / branch pylons
Thanks for your comments, I mentioned the Pylons more as a description of being connected to the grid, the Pylons are huge and we're quite close to where 3 different service lines meet and then branch off onto a mega service line (sorry I don't know the correct terms of description) my point was from these pylons , our village is supplied via heavy cables and poles some overhead, some underground, across my land to the substation . I think I've deduced from the comments, sadly the storage companies would already have contacted me if it was suitable. I do appreciate your comments, saved me going down the rabbit hole of disappointment.
 

wilber

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Thanks for your comments, I mentioned the Pylons more as a description of being connected to the grid, the Pylons are huge and we're quite close to where 3 different service lines meet and then branch off onto a mega service line (sorry I don't know the correct terms of description) my point was from these pylons , our village is supplied via heavy cables and poles some overhead, some underground, across my land to the substation . I think I've deduced from the comments, sadly the storage companies would already have contacted me if it was suitable. I do appreciate your comments, saved me going down the rabbit hole of disappointment.

Dont let some of the comments put you off. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Do some research into some of the bigger players and drop them an email with plenty of info, maps outlining your land etc. You might get a bite.
 

Nimel

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Dont let some of the comments put you off. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Do some research into some of the bigger players and drop them an email with plenty of info, maps outlining your land etc. You might get a bite.
Cheers, my idea was just to do the same as you suggested,that was the purpose of my initial comment on this thread, Google just doesn't come up with any "players" , plenty of "click bait" saying earn thousands with battery storage, but no actual companies. I thought someone might have said we used " xyz" etc. Appreciate your encouragement.
 

Farmer_England

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Your land agent would also be worth an ask, after all a lot get tasked with sorting solar/storage etc out, so they will have contacts they deal with or had dealings with. Certainly worth asking.
I would second that. I don’t know if the storage companies are looking at certain areas first and then will branch out. wish you luck for sure !
 

Nimel

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Your land agent would also be worth an ask, after all a lot get tasked with sorting solar/storage etc out, so they will have contacts they deal with or had dealings with. Certainly worth asking.
I would definitely involve the land agent , I first wanted to peruse the online companies, get a feeling for case studies etc, once down the line of our land agent it might be a case of a dog with a bone lol. I'm very much a , if it's too good to be true, then it is, type of person, so research of companies is paramount.
 

MrNoo

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I would definitely involve the land agent , I first wanted to peruse the online companies, get a feeling for case studies etc, once down the line of our land agent it might be a case of a dog with a bone lol. I'm very much a , if it's too good to be true, then it is, type of person, so research of companies is paramount.
Your land agent will have already dealt with legit companies, there are a lot out there that’ll sign you up and then hawk out the site to a bidder.
or others that sign you up then go quiet for months on end!!
It is called the “Solar Rollercoaster” for good reason!!!! But certainly worth it in the end, our site took 8 years from start to completion, due to subs dropping, CFD being stopped, the project passed through 3 companies in that time too.
Good luck!
 

Nimel

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Your land agent will have already dealt with legit companies, there are a lot out there that’ll sign you up and then hawk out the site to a bidder.
or others that sign you up then go quiet for months on end!!
It is called the “Solar Rollercoaster” for good reason!!!! But certainly worth it in the end, our site took 8 years from start to completion, due to subs dropping, CFD being stopped, the project passed through 3 companies in that time too.
Good luck!
Wow 8 years? I didn't know battery storage had been around that long. I might be getting my wires crossed. I thought battery storage was a process where by, energy is taken from the grid, stored, then as capacity raised at peak periods it was fed back into the grid. I'm not wanting solar panels on my land. I am familiar with solar, battery systems but I thought a battery storage could run independently from panels, the one piece of info on the "net"I did find was needing a 33kv sub close to your land , which I do have. I'm aware of, companies selling options on, the land I have in question, is on the village boundary and I've been offered options on it from major house builders, soon as I ask for an uplift on the option if it's sold on , they're suddenly no longer interested 🤔.
 

MrNoo

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24Mw Solar plus 49Mw storage here, connection was only 12Mw so hence the storage. They can import to charge as well as export. They say the most advanced solar farm in the uk.
Having 33Kva is a good start but very surprised you’ve not been approached already, as they normally follow the lines and approach all landowners along them.
Certainly we’ll worth chasing up, beats farming!!
 
I have a longstanding bet made with an employee of a UK fusion project that there won't a single commercial UK fusion power station connected to the grid in the entire 60 lifetime of the solar farm proposed for my area.

It might be that fusion power never works practically. As a research effort, proof of concept, yes, great, it works. Cranking usable power out of it? I'm dubious. And it still creates nuclear waste and huge buildings that no one will want to look at.
 

teslacoils

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It might be that fusion power never works practically. As a research effort, proof of concept, yes, great, it works. Cranking usable power out of it? I'm dubious. And it still creates nuclear waste and huge buildings that no one will want to look at.
Yes. Given the 12 to 15 years planning to get a conventional nuclear plant through, on an existing site, I say good luck convincing the nimbys it won't just reduce their house prices, but could destroy the world by creating a black hole! I know it won't. But it's good to know reasonable people become rabid nutcases when anything is planned to be built anywhere in Britain.
 

Sheep

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Thanks for your comments, I mentioned the Pylons more as a description of being connected to the grid, the Pylons are huge and we're quite close to where 3 different service lines meet and then branch off onto a mega service line (sorry I don't know the correct terms of description) my point was from these pylons , our village is supplied via heavy cables and poles some overhead, some underground, across my land to the substation . I think I've deduced from the comments, sadly the storage companies would already have contacted me if it was suitable. I do appreciate your comments, saved me going down the rabbit hole of disappointment.

Dont let some of the comments put you off. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. Do some research into some of the bigger players and drop them an email with plenty of info, maps outlining your land etc. You might get a bite.

Just want to echo @wilber's comment. A few of these threads are always quite defeatist, along the lines of "If they haven't contacted you by now its probably not worth it/eligible/feasible".

Absolutely not, although it doesn't seem it a lot of these ventures are still in their infancy and still gathering momentum. Get some red line boundaries drawn up and send them out to the biggest and most respected companies to begin with. I've been doing the same the past few months.
 

Nimel

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Just want to echo @wilber's comment. A few of these threads are always quite defeatist, along the lines of "If they haven't contacted you by now its probably not worth it/eligible/feasible".

Absolutely not, although it doesn't seem it a lot of these ventures are still in their infancy and still gathering momentum. Get some red line boundaries drawn up and send them out to the biggest and most respected companies to begin with. I've been doing the same the past few months.
Advice and encouragement much appreciated, worst that can happen is they say no.
 

ford4000

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It might be that fusion power never works practically. As a research effort, proof of concept, yes, great, it works. Cranking usable power out of it? I'm dubious. And it still creates nuclear waste and huge buildings that no one will want to look at.
There's recently been what they call a major breakthrough in fusion power so there's still hope. Created more energy than it used for the first time!!
 

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wilber

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I doubt many of us will see a commercial fusion reactor. ITER is still testing then they we will build DEMO after that we would see a commercial reactor but the timescales on these projects are pretty big and i dont think DEMO has even been announced yet?
 

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