Be prepared to be stopped by the police next week.

[dowcow]

The £60 is to expensive let alone the £100!!!

Go and ask a digger/telehandler driver on a building site what he is on for his 8 hour day, and then you'll see that a tractor driver on harvest hours is bloody cheap if he's not on £150 a day.

 

[7610 super q]

But presumably on a building site, the finished product is priced up to include a profit after paying staff / materials / machinery etc.
In Ag we're twating about selling stuff at 1970's prices. I see the average house price in 1976 was £10k. I wonder how property developers would fare selling houses at £10k each, whilst paying 21st Century costs......

 

[Farmer Fin]

Local farmer got stopped on Monday with a cart load of wheat by the police. He’s been charged with an insecure load, he had an easy sheet but not pulled over. Police told him they were cracking down. Probably doesn’t help that someone has shed some grain around the roundabout opposite the station.

 

[Northern territory]

Blood boiling really though isn’t it. I am all for safety but it Is always easy targets. Where are they when stuff is being nicked left right and centre. We nearly had a barn go up a few weeks ago. Kids messing around with lighters.

 

[andybk]

But presumably on a building site, the finished product is priced up to include a profit after paying staff / materials / machinery etc.
In Ag we're twating about selling stuff at 1970's prices. I see the average house price in 1976 was £10k. I wonder how property developers would fare selling houses at £10k each, whilst paying 21st Century costs......

THIS ^^^^^^^!

 

[Mc115reed]

But presumably on a building site, the finished product is priced up to include a profit after paying staff / materials / machinery etc.
In Ag we're twating about selling stuff at 1970's prices. I see the average house price in 1976 was £10k. I wonder how property developers would fare selling houses at £10k each, whilst paying 21st Century costs......

Finished product in ag contracting is priced at a couple quid less than the other guy is willing too do it at

 

[kiwi pom]

Finished product in ag contracting is priced at a couple quid less than the other guy is willing too do it at

You might be surprised how often that happens in construction too. Once they get the job, corners are cut along the way to try and stay under budget.
Construction companies, big and small go bust all the time.

 

[kiwi pom]

Local farmer got stopped on Monday with a cart load of wheat by the police. He’s been charged with an insecure load, he had an easy sheet but not pulled over. Police told him they were cracking down. Probably doesn’t help that someone has shed some grain around the roundabout opposite the station.

They must have been able to see the heaped grain and as you say there was grain on the roundabout which is fecking dangerous, what are they supposed to do?
Not their fault the guy on the tractor couldn't do things properly.

 

[Doing it for the kids]

You might be surprised how often that happens in construction too. Once they get the job, corners are cut along the way to try and stay under budget.
Construction companies, big and small go bust all the time.

are you based in the UK out of curiosity, I see you are a very active poster on TFF and often wondered?!

 

[Tarw Coch]

You might be surprised how often that happens in construction too. Once they get the job, corners are cut along the way to try and stay under budget.
Construction companies, big and small go bust all the time.

It allways amazes me how large scale projects seem to go way over budget, if I have a quote for a job that’s the price I expect to pay

 

[Chae1]

It allways amazes me how large scale projects seem to go way over budget, if I have a quote for a job that’s the price I expect to pay

Same if I give a quote. That's the price I charge. Even if it leaves me out of pocket. It's my fault if I quote wrong.

 

[Highland Mule]

It allways amazes me how large scale projects seem to go way over budget, if I have a quote for a job that’s the price I expect to pay

It’s a game now on these big jobs. You quote low, knowing the client will change the specification, then hit them with a bill for the changes and make the profit then.

And the really big jobs would never get sanction if they were honest at the front end, so they go in low and know it can be upped once the money is committed and the client is too deep to change.

 

[Farmer Fin]

They must have been able to see the heaped grain and as you say there was grain on the roundabout which is fecking dangerous, what are they supposed to do?
Not their fault the guy on the tractor couldn't do things properly.

I’m not arguing for the farmer. I was merely stating what happened. I too think grain on the road is dangerous and wouldn’t want my wife and kids to be having to break hard in the car. It will take a lot more of these and a big culture shock for farmers to change.

 

[betweenthelines]

It allways amazes me how large scale projects seem to go way over budget, if I have a quote for a job that’s the price I expect to pay

FIL was a Project manager on Major Construction Projects-Regional Hospitals, Large Supermarkets etc.

Tender price was just the starting figure really. and in 20+ years with the same firm, they only ever completed one project on schedule-but they were one of the best in the industry!

 

[CPF]

It’s a game now on these big jobs. You quote low, knowing the client will change the specification, then hit them with a bill for the changes and make the profit then.

And the really big jobs would never get sanction if they were honest at the front end, so they go in low and know it can be upped once the money is committed and the client is too deep to change.

Hs2

 

[kiwi pom]

are you based in the UK out of curiosity, I see you are a very active poster on TFF and often wondered?!

No, used to live there, parents and brother still do.
Worked for a lot of farms and contractors employed and self employed, so know all the short cuts and excuses. Also ran my own tractor for a while My brothers a gamekeeper/tractor driver in Cheshire.
My dad was a bricklayer (retired now) and a couple of mates I stay in touch with are builders.

As for this thread I was never stopped by the police in the UK whilst driving a tractor, although I probably should have been.
Got to know them quite well when I started out here though

Didn't think I posted that much, perhaps little and often? Been here since TFF was a baby.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Same if I give a quote. That's the price I charge. Even if it leaves me out of pocket. It's my fault if I quote wrong.

I can see what your saying however when we had a quote for building our house we had 3 quotes . We went with the builder we felt we could get on the best with (who wasn't the cheapest) . When it came to putting the prep work in for the underfloor heating he suddenly realised that he had mistakenly not quoted for it. This would have left him nearly 5 grand out of pocket . He held his hands up and took responsibility and carried on doing it . We kept quiet about it until he had completed that particular job ,which he did without trying to skimp to save himself some money , we then paid him the extra as we liked his attitude and the fact his work standard was just as good even though he thought he wouldn't get paid for it .
Back to the original post ..... Mr Plod is targeting livestock trailers in Hereford/Ross area . I know of 2 stopped yesterday fully laden with sheep .

 

[TripleSix]

It's not a bad thing...

I passed a combine last night being moved in the dark on the bypass, a big old Class.

A Landrover in front of it towing the header with its hazard lights on which you couldn't see, no lights on the header trailer, combine had no beacons on and only one rear light working, and not very bright either.

An accident waiting to happen

 

[icanshootwell]

I can see what your saying however when we had a quote for building our house we had 3 quotes . We went with the builder we felt we could get on the best with (who wasn't the cheapest) . When it came to putting the prep work in for the underfloor heating he suddenly realised that he had mistakenly not quoted for it. This would have left him nearly 5 grand out of pocket . He held his hands up and took responsibility and carried on doing it . We kept quiet about it until he had completed that particular job ,which he did without trying to skimp to save himself some money , we then paid him the extra as we liked his attitude and the fact his work standard was just as good even though he thought he wouldn't get paid for it .
Back to the original post ..... Mr Plod is targeting livestock trailers in Hereford/Ross area . I know of 2 stopped yesterday fully laden with sheep .

Could you pm his name and no, have a couple of jobs in the pipe line, hard to fine a trust worthy builder today.

 

[Forever Fendt]

You might be surprised how often that happens in construction too. Once they get the job, corners are cut along the way to try and stay under budget.
Construction companies, big and small go bust all the time.

And then they start up again and the owners still have all there luxuries