Beef cattle, numbers game or myth?

[Hilly]

hay making, cereal harvest….

Machines need prepaired or they dont work , stock need fed checked lot to do before go hay making .

 

[Kiwi Pete]

It is easier getting up earlier instead of working till half ten on a night. No idea why it just is. Probably because after a while if you keep working till 10 pm eventually you aren’t starting at 7 it’s nearer 9. Less folks bother you at 4 or 5am till 8 or 9am.

I agree, I go out for 5 minutes in the morning and shift the stock.

I go out again about 7.30pm and shift them again, but end up spending 30 minutes taking pictures, so it's not nearly as efficient at that time of day

 

[topground]

I don't care if it makes you as strong as the world's strongest man, wealthier than Elon Musk or more lethal to the fairer sex than rohypnol, anyone working 7am to 10pm all year round needs to get a life. I enjoy my new vocation far more than I used to enjoy farming and I won't do 100 hours a week in it for any amount of money. No one is going to thank you for it, there has to be a point to life.

If work was all it is cracked up to be the rich would never have given it away.

 

[Hilly]

If work was all it is cracked up to be the rich would never have given it away.

How did they become rich ?

 

[Hilly]

Ive never met any self made millionaire that has not had a long period of time working hard , not many make money doing nothing. .

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Ive never met any self made millionaire that has not had a long period of time working hard , not many make money doing nothing. .

Hard work is a reasonable thing to do, and thus gives reasonable results.

That's why we train employees to "work hard" ??

But they will be working very hard to go from being a worth a million at 30, to being worth 10 million by 40, from just using their backs

 

[czechmate]

Machines need prepaired or they dont work , stock need fed checked lot to do before go hay making .

must admit, I don’t care what the clock says and always work around the weather. Lots of jobs are better with the dew gone. That said, I don’t do well with the heat here, so tend to start very early in the summer greasing etc so I can hide in the tractor/combine when it’s 40 degrees

 

[Hilly]

Hard work is a reasonable thing to do, and thus gives reasonable results.

That's why we train employees to "work hard" ??

But they will be working very hard to go from being a worth a million at 30, to being worth 10 million by 40, from just using their backs

Whats the answer then ? Sit about ? Some people find great money spinners and work real hard and make fortunes , not all hard work is physical .

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Whats the answer then ? Sit about ? Some people find great money spinners and work real hard and make fortunes , not all hard work is physical .

There is no answer.
Some people are very content to have bought themself a fulltime job.

Others are always asking "what's next?"

 

[britishblue]

I remember a story my dad told me that when he was in the bar after a game of curling one night his fellow curlers were boasting about how hard their sons worked. The Berwickshire farmer next to my dad piped up ' You know I never worked a day when I was a boy ' and then added 'to be honest i've never worked many since'

 

[Hilly]

I remember a story my dad told me that when he was in the bar after a game of curling one night his fellow curlers were boasting about how hard their sons worked. The Berwickshire farmer next to my dad piped up ' You know I never worked a day when I was a boy ' and then added 'to be honest i've never worked many since'

Easy life in Berwickshire tho thenland of milk n honey

 

[czechmate]

Whats the answer then ? Sit about ? Some people find great money spinners and work real hard and make fortunes , not all hard work is physical .

write an App

 

[Hilly]

write an App

Could be hard work to get a good one right

 

[topground]

How did they become rich ?

Primarily by getting others to do the hours for them. Working long hours is not an indicator of hard work.

Ive never met any self made millionaire that has not had a long period of time working hard , not many make money doing nothing. .

They use other peoples money to employ other people to fulfill a function which makes them money. They take the risk and the responsibility . I know a number of self made millionaires. None of them are one man bands.

 

[czechmate]

Whats the answer then ? Sit about ? Some people find great money spinners and work real hard and make fortunes , not all hard work is physical .

there are lots of ex pats around here, that sits around in bars telling anyone who will listen, how well they did to retire in their mid 50’s and come and « live the dream »
which just seems to be sitting around in bars . Looks like a frigging nightmare to me

must be a happy compromise somewhere between that and helping the vet at 3 am on a Sunday night putting back a prolapse

 

[Hilly]

there are lots of ex pats around here, that sits around in bars telling anyone who will listen, how well they did to retire in their mid 50’s and come and « live the dream »
which just seems to be sitting around in bars . Looks like a frigging nightmare to me

I know a man like that , i often think to myself i have never met someone so clever that has so little .

 

[henman]

Beef will never compete with dairy in dairy areas. land to rent witch you can run a forage harvester £150 min if you find it , most £200-250 land £10,0000 to £12500 to buy. With milk at 50p plus the dairy farmers are not complaining for once how can a beef farmer expand ?

 

[Hilly]

Primarily by getting others to do the hours for them. Working long hours is not an indicator of hard work.

They use other peoples money to employ other people to fulfill a function which makes them money. They take the risk and the responsibility . I know a number of self made millionaires. None of them are one man bands.

I bet they still work hard ……

 

[Kiwi Pete]

Primarily by getting others to do the hours for them. Working long hours is not an indicator of hard work.

They use other peoples money to employ other people to fulfill a function which makes them money. They take the risk and the responsibility . I know a number of self made millionaires. None of them are one man bands.

"Leverage".

I guess cows can be great at that in some systems, ie they do most of the farmwork and this makes the sheep perform better. Or make the grain grow harder.

In other systems they create most of the work, require most of the overheads, buildings and machinery.

The only real issue with the second type of system is that most of the world needs very little of that, and so this sets the COP of beef on the global stage.

 

[Farmer Roy]

meh, most people i know who are full time beef producers have bugger all "plant" tied up in it

A Toyota ( everyone needs transport ), a horse or 2, a horse float, maybe a quad bike . . .
A set of cattle yards & water would be their biggest infrastructure costs

what more do you need ?

anything else just complicates the issue & adds extra costs