Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[sheepwise]

Personally i agree wholeheartedly with you @runnyegg the RT is totally run by the supermarkets and is there to make them more money, there is a three or probably four tier meat production system. At the lowest end bargin bucket you have the American style where anything goes and produce it cheap and then try and make it safe in the factory or outlet. You then have the red tractor who are all about ticking boxes to convince the public the meat is safe which is a good system but is not really helping the farmer as it is abused by the unscrupulous. You then have the organic and RT plus level which is for the Waitrose style shopper and lastly you have the bespoke direct sell stylr such as @runny egg runs which is for the most discerning custermor but would not work for your average joe blogs but is where there is money to be made.
The biggest issue we have as red meat suppliers is folk selling under finished stock in the prime market especially with lamb, this drags down the average price time and time again, i just cant understand both the auction staff and the farmers. The likes of Wigton and Carlisle have stopped this to the point where if you dont have the very best stock its pointless taking them as there are not the buyers there for them, where as Longtown and Bentham will have as many stores as prime in at some prime sales. Yes there are buyers there for these lambs and many sell well for what they are but they pull the average down drastically and are then bought and re marketed in a few weeks which is good for the mart re commission but they are costing more in levy and extras than if sold in the store ring.

Defo wouldn't put organic above RT as that's just another sales gimmick. Seen plenty of so called organic livestock systems over the years which should never pass a farm assurance inspection.

 

[gone up the hill]

Lambs hit yet another high this week in Australia to top at $354.20 dollars for 11 month old lambs..

Meanwhile in the UK at Sedgemoor on Monday trade dropped 20pk on the week to only average about 171pk.......................or £75 a lamb!

 

[Henarar]

Lambs hit yet another high this week in Australia to top at $354.20 dollars for 11 month old lambs..

Meanwhile in the UK at Sedgemoor on Monday trade dropped 20pk on the week to only average about 171pk.......................or £75 a lamb!

what market was that ?

 

[gone up the hill]

Ref independent auditors, no not currently but this is something we are changing as I want our audit to include sustainability, carbon foot print etc and not just box ticking.
Ref RT, your missing the point, I was an RT member but quit as it didn't go far enough on all levels, when it goes further and delivers on its shortfall then I will rejoin but not as a replacement to my own efforts. The reason I would join again is because the UK needs a national scheme that works, so by me joining and promoting, I then promote British red meat as a whole. We absolutely need a robust scheme and promotion policy, if not then red meat UK is finished in a future based on price. Sorry for taking this thread off topic.

Your scheme isn't worth the paper its written on if its not audited by a third party!

A bit of joke that no one audits your scheme yet you think its better than the RT scheme that actually is audited..........................

The RT scheme is robust and fit for purpose ref the scheme rules, the problem is the marketing of the logo/ what it stands for etc to consumers is NOT fit for purpose.

Untill they sort out the branding/ marketing of the RT logo/ what its stands for to consumers then farmers will have very little patience in accepting even tighter scheme rules and that is now clear with so many farmers now quitting the RT scheme!

 

[gone up the hill]

what market was that ?

Wagga ( I think that's how you write it )

May be a price from a couple of weeks ago tbh, just seen it come up on my FB feed.

 

[Beef farmer]

Lambs hit yet another high this week in Australia to top at $354.20 dollars for 11 month old lambs..

Meanwhile in the UK at Sedgemoor on Monday trade dropped 20pk on the week to only average about 171pk.......................or £75 a lamb!

Oz lambs at 350$ are 90+kg live

 

[gone up the hill]

Oz lambs at 350$ are 90+kg live

Yep but that is their spec, what does that equate to in ££s??

And the main point is that they are now getting record prices whilst our prices are at the bottom of a deep river!

 

[Jerry]

Lambs hit yet another high this week in Australia to top at $354.20 dollars for 11 month old lambs..

Meanwhile in the UK at Sedgemoor on Monday trade dropped 20pk on the week to only average about 171pk.......................or £75 a lamb!

And yet I think ewe trade today in Exeter was up vs last year, that’s as an interested bystander other buying a couple pens . .....ram trade was poor.

Go figure...

 

[Beef farmer]

Yep but that is their spec, what does that equate to in ££s??

And the main point is that they are now getting record prices whilst our prices are at the bottom of a deep river!

Not comparing apples with apples.

 

[Beef farmer]

what market was that ?

Wagga wagga.
Monstor sale yards. Actually worked for 1 week picking lambs with one of their agents.

Dont worry about what they are up to, its a different ball game.

 

[gone up the hill]

Not comparing apples with apples.

Still record prices which now we are in a global market should be partly reflected here!

 

[Beef farmer]

Still record prices which now we are in a global market should be partly reflected here!

Breed a morino then, get them at 11 months old in the 90-110kg bracket with a minimum of 5cm of wool on.

Then sell them in april at the dearest time of the year, and report back.

@Northeastfarmer last year got £150?? For a little 60kg lamb.

 

[gone up the hill]

And yet I think ewe trade today in Exeter was up vs last year, that’s as an interested bystander other buying a couple pens . .....ram trade was poor.

Go figure...

Too many rams about these days and prices the last few years has been too much for anything half decent!

Can only think the fact that many beef/sheep farmers have no need for a second cut/ store cattle are very dear but the prime price is on the floor so they aren't keen on cattle to graze the regrowth and the fact that lambs until this week have been a steady trade this spring is what is helping the breeding ewe trade.

 

[gone up the hill]

Breed a morino then, get them at 11 months old in the 90-110kg bracket with a minimum of 5cm of wool on.

Then sell them in april at the dearest time of the year, and report back.

@Northeastfarmer last year got £150?? For a little 60kg lamb.

It was actually a Dorset x...........................

But strange that you are concerned with the Milk price in that part of the world beef farmer as it clearly has a bearing on UK milk prices but are claiming that the sheep job is totally different in that respect................

 

[Beef farmer]

It was actually a Dorset x...........................

Morino

 

[Beef farmer]

It was actually a Dorset x...........................

So keep a morino ewe, and a dorset tup. Anyone having sheep in on tack would want more than 45p week for the ewe.

 

[Old Tip]

and the American meat may be just as good and the animals just as well looked after as the rest, don't ever believe that any of these schemes will always make the product or the welfare better because they won't
I am not arrogant enough to think that there are not farmers in America be that north or south that look after their animals better and produce a better product than either me or anyone else on this forum

It’s not the farmers but the slaughter and meat management that’s very poor, that’s why so much is washed in chlorine. If you’ve ever handled beef the last thing you want to do is wash it let alone in chlorine

 

[cattleman123]

Too many rams about these days and prices the last few years has been too much for anything half decent!

Can only think the fact that many beef/sheep farmers have no need for a second cut/ store cattle are very dear but the prime price is on the floor so they aren't keen on cattle to graze the regrowth and the fact that lambs until this week have been a steady trade this spring is what is helping the breeding ewe trade.

Do you know summit, I cannot work anything out anymore..lots of busy fools around now

 

[farmeronecow]

Lambs hit yet another high this week in Australia to top at $354.20 dollars for 11 month old lambs..

Meanwhile in the UK at Sedgemoor on Monday trade dropped 20pk on the week to only average about 171pk.......................or £75 a lamb!

I averaged 178ppk and was disappointed at that. There was a lot of lambs in yesterday and a good percentage were too small and under finished so that would distort the sqq

 

[gone up the hill]

Do you know summit, I cannot work anything out anymore..lots of busy fools around now

Young breeders need to be around the £100 mark, you can pick up good young couples in the spring for £120/140 head and all the work is done and you haven't the risk of lambing them/ odd one dropping dead/ being barren etc etc.