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[Cab-over Pete]

I'm intrigued. I did notice two years ago when chap had a field limed near us the adjacent fields that literally had a dusting from the cloud of dust grew better than the field that had been limed up until now when I think it has swung back other way.

I seriously doubt that. Many studies were done years ago and, if I recall correctly, less than 2% of good quality ground Aglime is physically capable of blowing more than 12 metres in a 2mph breeze, or something like that.

Your field next door would need to be literally a 10m strip wide alongside your neighbour to get any benefits whatsoever from the spreaders first pass. The whole field certainly would never benefit.

I’m not saying your field didn’t grow well that year, but it wasn’t your neighbour that grew it for you.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

If you think about it lime burns, imagine what that does to your soil biology in large amounts, yes it will correct your ph but what damage has it done.
As livestock farmers the best way to apply lime is with dung or slurry or by composting which is a way of neutralising ph by itself.

Agricultural lime doesn’t burn anything. Hydrated and burnt limes are seriously nasty commodities and cannot be delivered in bulk form never mind be spread on land. Aglime is nothing like that. If I’m in a situation where lime has been tipped out in the field for a long time I often notice worms have started to make a home in the heap, along with mice, rabbits and lots of other critters. I’ve had more than my share of lime dust in my eyes for 30 years and I don’t wear glasses.

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I can only speak for the area I work in but there are farms in south Warwickshire with very high pH soils, very calcareous with copious amounts of lime stone strewn about so much you couldn’t avoid them if you threw a penny down.
They can read as high as 8.8 in my experience. Those farmers know how to grow wheat, no mistake.

Try spreading 15kg of lime on an acre for a decade on ground that’s been using it in rotation. Stick to it religiously and watch yields tumbling after about year 6. Prilled lime won’t help. It doesn’t work better than good quality ground lime. It CANNOT work better, it’s EXACTLY the same stuff. After 10 years you’ll have an expensive problem to put right.

Farmers have known the benefits of spreading lime for hundreds of years. They dragged it across counties with horse and cart and I’ve seen sheds of lime in The Netherlands imported from Scotland.

If it didn’t work I’m sure someone would have noticed before now.

 

[livestock 1]

I can only speak for the area I work in but there are farms in south Warwickshire with very high pH soils, very calcareous with copious amounts of lime stone strewn about so much you couldn’t avoid them if you threw a penny down.
They can read as high as 8.8 in my experience. Those farmers know how to grow wheat, no mistake.

Try spreading 15kg of lime on an acre for a decade on ground that’s been using it in rotation. Stick to it religiously and watch yields tumbling after about year 6. Prilled lime won’t help. It doesn’t work better than good quality ground lime. It CANNOT work better, it’s EXACTLY the same stuff. After 10 years you’ll have an expensive problem to put right.

Farmers have known the benefits of spreading lime for hundreds of years. They dragged it across counties with horse and cart and I’ve seen sheds of lime in The Netherlands imported from Scotland.

If it didn’t work I’m sure someone would have noticed before now.

After being approached by the prilled lime rep at a show I decided to dig into the nv of it.
I told him straight that it was like buying tetley tea bags in a harrods packet
When we discussed his extra nv claims of his extra ordinary expenseive product which is made out of the same stuff we get tipped I asked him again’how the hell can prilled lime have a better nv?’
He said it cannot

 

[Highland Mule]

I use prilled, because I can spread it myself through my small Fert spinner, can easily get into small paddocks and don’t need to buy in 20+ tonne loads. For a 2 acre tup paddock, it’s ideal to throw on a 500kg bag, at a time of my convenience. I know it will all react, which makes it about 2:1 effective compared to bull lime. Given bulk is ~£40/tonne to buy and spread and 50% will be big bits that don’t do much neutralising, I’m happy at the roughly 50% premium for convenience.

 

[Bossfarmer]

If you think about it lime burns, imagine what that does to your soil biology in large amounts, yes it will correct your ph but what damage has it done.
As livestock farmers the best way to apply lime is with dung or slurry or by composting which is a way of neutralising ph by itself.

what do you mean apply lime with dung?

 

[Treg]

what do you mean apply lime with dung?

I've started another thread .
I'll tag you in
Anyone welcome to comment on it though just trying to leave this thread for prices.

 

[z.man]

£4.20-£4.30 ppk for cattle this week

 

[Chae1]

hammer it with muck before ploughing? what sort of yield difference do you find between spring and winter barley? we struggled to pass for malting last year with sb

Can graze ley fields till September then get w.barley in behind it. Often hammer it with muck too. I'd say generally 1.5t/acre more. Plenty straw too.

Gets combine, balers, grain drier tried out and tested before spring barley. Sheds tidied out. So generally we are ready to rock when it's ready

 

[Northern territory]

What are deadweight Hogg prices, dunbia ?

 

[Gedd]

Cattle would be less money in Darlington today 15/20p down

 

[Henarar]

Agricultural lime doesn’t burn anything. Hydrated and burnt limes are seriously nasty commodities and cannot be delivered in bulk form never mind be spread on land. Aglime is nothing like that. If I’m in a situation where lime has been tipped out in the field for a long time I often notice worms have started to make a home in the heap, along with mice, rabbits and lots of other critters. I’ve had more than my share of lime dust in my eyes for 30 years and I don’t wear glasses.

Thats not true unless things have changed in the last few years, I have spread burnt lime and it came in bulk and tipped on the ground

 

[Cab-over Pete]

I did 25 years ago, but you won’t get it now.

 

[Hilly]

After being approached by the prilled lime rep at a show I decided to dig into the nv of it.
I told him straight that it was like buying tetley tea bags in a harrods packet
When we discussed his extra nv claims of his extra ordinary expenseive product which is made out of the same stuff we get tipped I asked him again’how the hell can prilled lime have a better nv?’
He said it cannot

No one here said it is , but if you wanted to try the 10-15kg acre I’d like to know how without using prilled ?

 

[Henarar]

I did 25 years ago, but you won’t get it now.

good it was some miserable bloody stuff

 

[Hilly]

good it was some miserable bloody stuff

I used to have a job getting a man to spread it , wasn’t good on the gear .

 

[J 1177]

Do you deal with Stephen?? He’s a character! They used to shift a lot of screenings up here but not so much now

Hes a grand bloke

 

[J 1177]

Cattle would be less money in Darlington today 15/20p down

Any idea why G? Buyers missing?

 

[balerman]

No one here said it is , but if you wanted to try the 10-15kg acre I’d like to know how without using prilled ?

Bucket and Chuck it about by hand if you must,complete waste of time and energy.

 

[coniser]

I use prilled, because I can spread it myself through my small Fert spinner, can easily get into small paddocks and don’t need to buy in 20+ tonne loads. For a 2 acre tup paddock, it’s ideal to throw on a 500kg bag, at a time of my convenience. I know it will all react, which makes it about 2:1 effective compared to bull lime. Given bulk is ~£40/tonne to buy and spread and 50% will be big bits that don’t do much neutralising, I’m happy at the roughly 50% premium for convenience.

I have just paid £20 a ton supplied and spread