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[livestock 1]

No your stimulating the soil biology, they do the neutralising.
Spreading 1 ton of lime is 1950s farming, the soil web was discovered in the 1980s so why do farmerrs still put on 1 ton of lime?
The modern soil scientists do not recommend high levels of lime , it's taking time to filter down to farmer level because most people want to sell us stuff.

Sounds ridiculous to me. Ph values are there to be seen. Lime takes time to work as the rock needs time to break down. I put 4t acre on for starters. 2x 2t per acre after testing twice is probably more economical. The rates you are speaking of mean absolutely nothing on the scale of nv.
There’s more dust floating from the local quarries than that and if your storywas true then I would never have incorrect ph and never need lime

 

[livestock 1]

@Cab-over Pete

 

[Skintagain]

Sounds ridiculous to me. Ph values are there to be seen. Lime takes time to work as the rock needs time to break down. I put 4t acre on for starters. 2x 2t per acre after testing twice is probably more economical. The rates you are speaking of mean absolutely nothing on the scale of nv.
There’s more dust floating from the local quarries than that and if your storywas true then I would never have incorrect ph and never need lime

I'm intrigued. I did notice two years ago when chap had a field limed near us the adjacent fields that literally had a dusting from the cloud of dust grew better than the field that had been limed up until now when I think it has swung back other way.

 

[Treg]

Sounds ridiculous to me. Ph values are there to be seen. Lime takes time to work as the rock needs time to break down. I put 4t acre on for starters. 2x 2t per acre after testing twice is probably more economical. The rates you are speaking of mean absolutely nothing on the scale of nv.
There’s more dust floating from the local quarries than that and if your storywas true then I would never have incorrect ph and never need lime

I know it sounds crazy because we've been brought up with applying certain levels of products and those still teaching Ag students are still that generation so it takes time to change a industries mindset.
If your making a good profit then I wouldn't change what your doing but if your noticing deficiencies and thinking something isn't quite right , then I would recommend reading Nicole Masters - Love of Soil
There's also a Australian soil scientist Christine someone I think @Poorbuthappy mite know who I mean?

 

[livestock 1]

I know it sounds crazy because we've been brought up with applying certain levels of products and those still teaching Ag students are still that generation so it takes time to change a industries mindset.
If your making a good profit then I wouldn't change what your doing but if your noticing deficiencies and thinking something isn't quite right , then I would recommend reading Nicole Masters - Love of Soil
There's also a Australian soil scientist Christine someone I think @poorbuthmite know who I mean?

I’m sometimes getting ph of 5.4/7 ish on land that has not seen lime for some time
Seems hard to believe that a low rate you speak of would do anything for it
The difference in what I have done is unbelievable compared to neighbouring land that’s had none
If you are right it’s looking like I could save tens of thousands

 

[Treg]

I'm intrigued. I did notice two years ago when chap had a field limed near us the adjacent fields that literally had a dusting from the cloud of dust grew better than the field that had been limed up until now when I think it has swung back other way.

If you think about it lime burns, imagine what that does to your soil biology in large amounts, yes it will correct your ph but what damage has it done.
As livestock farmers the best way to apply lime is with dung or slurry or by composting which is a way of neutralising ph by itself.

 

[Treg]

I’m sometimes getting ph of 5.4/7 ish on land that has not seen lime for some time
Seems hard to believe that a low rate you speak of would do anything for it
The difference in what I have done is unbelievable compared to neighbouring land that’s had none
If you are right it’s looking like I could save tens of thousands

If it saves you tens of thousands that would be Brilliant

 

[balerman]

The latest recommendations are 10 -15 kgs / acre for lime Not tonnes/ acres , the reason being heavy rates can damage your soil biology, low rates help the soil biology and THEY balance your soil.

Utter rubbish.

 

[Shebb90]

Utter rubbish.

I was how you was going to spread that little amount

 

[Skintagain]

I was how you was going to spread that little amount

Easily with prilled or mixed in with something else

 

[Hilly]

I’m sometimes getting ph of 5.4/7 ish on land that has not seen lime for some time
Seems hard to believe that a low rate you speak of would do anything for it
The difference in what I have done is unbelievable compared to neighbouring land that’s had none
If you are right it’s looking like I could save tens of thousands

Worth a try I’d say !! Cheap and do no harm .

 

[Hilly]

How much is prilled lime ?

 

[Hilly]

I was how you was going to spread that little amount

Prilled

 

[Shebb90]

Prilled

I see.... Fair enough. Didn't think of that. But still struggle to see that would be enough

 

[Hilly]

I see.... Fair enough. Didn't think of that. But still struggle to see that would be enough

Who knows ? Try and see I find is only way with new methods .

 

[Shebb90]

Who knows ? Try and see I find is only way with new methods .

Maybe on ground that up to date with lime and you keep adding to it often maybe, but old lays that haven't had lime for ages not so sure

 

[fieldfarmer]

I see.... Fair enough. Didn't think of that. But still struggle to see that would be enough

It won't be, 2ton to the acre going on some ground here today, 5.8 pH, last had lime (2 ton) about 4 years ago, very heavy clay, regular muck and sludge, cropped land though not grass. We aim for 6.5 to 6.8 across the farm.

 

[Hilly]

It won't be, 2ton to the acre going on some ground here today, 5.8 pH, last had lime (2 ton) about 4 years ago, very heavy clay, regular muck and sludge, cropped land though not grass. We aim for 6.5 to 6.8 across the farm.

I don’t think some of you are taking on board what the man said .

 

[ISCO]

Is that prilled lime per year. I could understand that, little and often.
15 kg of the traditional stuff would be difficult to spread.
We need some now so will look further into it.

 

[Hilly]

I read what the man said as tons per acre raise you ph but damages soil , 15kg wakes up soil and it corrects its own ph , worth trying I’d say not just discounting as ballocks because we have been told since the 50’s to put Tons on , tell them enough times and they believe it’s right for ever . I’m all for trying anything especially if it’s potential to save me a bloody fortune lol and if fails I will be the first to let you all know it’s rubbish