RMSLLOYD
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Difference between hot and cold weight. Its weighed warm after slaughter but they say it loses weight when chilled.
Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker
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spin cycle
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quick question....whats situation on 'splitters'...is it still teeth up or cut off date 
Teeth upquick question....whats situation on 'splitters'...is it still teeth up or cut off date
casper74
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Going to be a few flipping holidays in the next 6 weeks, certainly messes up Thursdays.
puntabrava
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- Wiltshire
£6 kilo Tesco’s leg of lamb, sadly NZ, but no time to go to Morrison’s.
Northeastfarmer
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puntabrava
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Went to get a ride height trailer valve In Amesbury, nearest Morrisons 20 miles away, I am not happy but modern life and time pressure!
Northeastfarmer
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I’ve just butchered a home kill hogg for Easter.
Family must be hungry if you can eat 30kg over a weekendI’ve just butchered a home kill hogg for Easter.
Northeastfarmer
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You know I’m a big eater
gone up the hill
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You are talking utter rubbish @Sid ..
Every other industry regardless of sector are all saying the same thing and that they have no choice but to pass on the recent input inflation seen to their customers or they will be out of business..
So quite why you think sheep farmers should now sell lambs well below the cost of production so people can eat cheaply is utter stupidity and quite frankly a race to the bottom and the sheep industry would end up like the poor pig industry now is if sheep farmers thought like you!
Current farmgate inflation for inputs is up 28% at least on 12 months ago ( according to Andersons the accountants ) so how the hell are sheep ( or indeed any farming sector ) farmers meant to just absorb that input inflation unless farmgate prices for sheep rise pro rata??
And there will certainly be no such thing as cheap root/kale crops this year either!!
And Sid if you really believe what you say and the sheep sector should be happy to absorb the 28% farmgate input inflation then why do you not practice what you are telling the rest of us to do and start a thread/ campaign to have farmgate milk prices set at no more than 30ppl and well below the current COP to help the poor consumers?? ( of course if you started such a thread in the dairy section the dairy farmers in there would laugh you off the forum after telling you to get real and they cannot absorb 28% input price inflation and sell milk at 30ppl....
Every other industry regardless of sector are all saying the same thing and that they have no choice but to pass on the recent input inflation seen to their customers or they will be out of business..
So quite why you think sheep farmers should now sell lambs well below the cost of production so people can eat cheaply is utter stupidity and quite frankly a race to the bottom and the sheep industry would end up like the poor pig industry now is if sheep farmers thought like you!
Current farmgate inflation for inputs is up 28% at least on 12 months ago ( according to Andersons the accountants ) so how the hell are sheep ( or indeed any farming sector ) farmers meant to just absorb that input inflation unless farmgate prices for sheep rise pro rata??
And there will certainly be no such thing as cheap root/kale crops this year either!!
And Sid if you really believe what you say and the sheep sector should be happy to absorb the 28% farmgate input inflation then why do you not practice what you are telling the rest of us to do and start a thread/ campaign to have farmgate milk prices set at no more than 30ppl and well below the current COP to help the poor consumers?? ( of course if you started such a thread in the dairy section the dairy farmers in there would laugh you off the forum after telling you to get real and they cannot absorb 28% input price inflation and sell milk at 30ppl....
gone up the hill
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Double bank Hols in June of a Thurs and Friday as well for the queens party...Going to be a few flipping holidays in the next 6 weeks, certainly messes up Thursdays.
Utter BS and hopefully the livestock markets/ slaughter lines will ignore it and carry on like normal on those days!
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Good to see that the 'Trade Agreement' that allows the export of hoggs from Lincolnshire to Lancashire is still working well
Watching the news yesterday the countrys only jukebox maker said the microchip to go in them had risen from just under £4 to £89!!!
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Farmers has historically been price takers.
That has/will change only due to supply being tight.
There have been plenty of occasions over the years where all commodities have been below the COP supported by the EU schemes.
As I said previously, you can have a COP of £200/lamb or 50p/l milk but if the consumer won't put their hand in their pocket as you rightly say your out of business. Has happened in the dairy sector and others and it probably will again.
But the difference between milk and lamb, I'll repeat it for you again, is that milk and bread are seen as staples in the shopping basket. Auto pilot pick up and go. Don't see that with a £20 leg of lamb!
Happy to see any sector absorb a 28% rise in input cost. Of course not but you also have to be realistic, will all those cost be found from the market, who knows, that's for the market to decide.
So when your up buying your lorry loads store cattle to put in your finishing unit remember those producers will have had increased costs this winter and bid up well on their cattle, about 30% more than last year should cover it and give then some margin to be able to buy that leg of lamb
Home grown feed, kale/root crops will nearly always be cheaper than bought in feed.
You have already said yourself beef and lamb is expensive.....and its not got cheaper
So is it expensive or not? And can the consumer afford it?
So lamb is only expensive if you make.
Can have lamb roast cheaper than that
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- South Molton
Farm business income, net farm income and cash income time series
Annual time series of the main measures of farm income from the Farm Business Survey.
I suggest you look back through the data and highlight the years to me where lowland livestock has been above COP and given a decent return on capital in the last 25 years?
Food is going to become more of a priority in household spending, begrudgingly.
Lamb is not expensiveFarmers has historically been price takers.
That has/will change only due to supply being tight.
There have been plenty of occasions over the years where all commodities have been below the COP supported by the EU schemes.
As I said previously, you can have a COP of £200/lamb or 50p/l milk but if the consumer won't put their hand in their pocket as you rightly say your out of business. Has happened in the dairy sector and others and it probably will again.
But the difference between milk and lamb, I'll repeat it for you again, is that milk and bread are seen as staples in the shopping basket. Auto pilot pick up and go. Don't see that with a £20 leg of lamb!
Happy to see any sector absorb a 28% rise in input cost. Of course not but you also have to be realistic, will all those cost be found from the market, who knows, that's for the market to decide.
So when your up buying your lorry loads store cattle to put in your finishing unit remember those producers will have had increased costs this winter and bid up well on their cattle, about 30% more than last year should cover it and give then some margin to be able to buy that leg of lamb
Home grown feed, kale/root crops will nearly always be cheaper than bought in feed.
You have already said yourself beef and lamb is expensive.....and its not got cheaper
So is it expensive or not? And can the consumer afford it?
No idea where folk get this from