Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[gone up the hill]

and the band played "believe it if you like"

HA HA, store lambs will be cheaper next week I reckon given the drop in liveweight/ deadweight prices.

 

[Beef farmer]

No TB licence but would have been very easy to fill an artic today with cattle that were decent sorts but a low average price across the board.

Even the auctioneer made the comment : Just what has happened to trade in the last two weeks?!

For example two 550/600 kilo named Hereford heifers FA and 28/29 months that need about 2 months feeding to fhinsh them only made £780!

Do you ever buy any cattle? You never seem to have a tb license. @Henarar oftens comments on your impeccably clean buyers card, I imagined he was joking, but I don't think he is.

 

[gone up the hill]

Do you ever buy any cattle? You never seem to have a tb license. @Henarar oftens comments on your impeccably clean buyers card, I imagined he was joking, but I don't think he is.

Yep I do but TB is a nightmare, I have had more problems getting licence's in the last year than in total for the previous 6 years when under TB2, ironically when I was losing 10/15 cattle every test it was a lot easier to get licences than now when im plagued with IRs from tracer tests!

 

[Beef farmer]

Yep I do but TB is a nightmare, I have had more problems getting licence's in the last year than in total for the previous 6 years when under TB2, ironically when I was losing 10/15 cattle every test it was a lot easier to get licences than now when im plagued with IRs from tracer tests!

Turn your buildings into an afu, how/why anyone finishing cattle in large numbers like yourself in the south west doesn't have an afu is beyond me. No tb testing. Bliss

 

[gone up the hill]

Turn your buildings into an afu, how/why anyone finishing cattle in large numbers like yourself in the south west doesn't have an afu is beyond me. No tb testing. Bliss

Looked into it but its unworkable as we want to graze sheep around the suckler herd and cant get a grazing AFU now anyway!

Grazing AFU's defo TB test around here at least once a year!

TB compo going to be slashed by 50% for bought in cattle very soon ( likely to be next year )

 

[Beef farmer]

Looked into it but its unworkable as we want to graze sheep around the suckler herd and cant get a grazing AFU now anyway!

Grazing AFU's defo TB test around here at least once a year!

TB compo going to be slashed by 50% for bought in cattle very soon ( likely to be next year )

Grazers need to test, but housed don't.

 

[Henarar]

Grazers need to test, but housed don't.

that's what I thought

 

[gone up the hill]

Grazers need to test, but housed don't.

Yea and we graze livestock.

Grazing AFU's in cull areas are going two years after the cull starts! ( thou new culls are now starting to run into serious problems with at least 2 now not starting this year as planned )

 

[Beef farmer]

Yea and we graze livestock.

Grazing AFU's in cull areas are going two years after the cull starts! ( thou new culls are now starting to run into serious problems with at least 2 now not starting this year as planned )

What problems? Lack of support?

 

[gone up the hill]

What problems? Lack of support?

Cant get 70% of the land signed up as many farmers have taken legal advice and had the contracts looked at and then being told in no uncertain terms NOT to sign them as they are so one sided/ costly etc etc.

Also the farmers that have signed up/ paid their money wont get anything of it returned this year apparently !

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Is your land in one block, I know stating the obvious which wont be the case but a separate holding no for Afu not workable? Funny trade with my stores at thame yesterday, always scribble down the night before how I value each beast/ pen, probably the most accurate ive ever been across 32 cattle, I was 2.60 out on the average. But fully admit up to 120 out on correct valuation on odd beast, opened up with 5 single steers, 4 very smart, thought I was going to have a disaster of a day as way under what I thought they would make, the plainest made 30 more than one of the better ones, similar weight, but r grade not e, be a harder feeder, then heifers odd bunch and odd plainer few, then my smart heifers @ 14/ 15 months, topped at 1190, and stayed up around that mark, appreciate a premium on heifers, but is it 10ppk? Not going to cover the difference between price of steers.

 

[Sheep135]

Looked into it but its unworkable as we want to graze sheep around the suckler herd and cant get a grazing AFU now anyway!

Grazing AFU's defo TB test around here at least once a year!

TB compo going to be slashed by 50% for bought in cattle very soon ( likely to be next year )

You don't need a grazing AFU to graze suckler cows outside. They just need to never come in contact with cattle inside the AFU or graze a field joining the AFU yard unless there is a 3 metre gap.

 

[gone up the hill]

You don't need a grazing AFU to graze suckler cows outside. They just need to never come in contact with cattle inside the AFU or graze a field joining the AFU yard unless there is a 3 metre gap.

They would have to be housed/ Tb tested in the same sheds/race as the AFU would be.

Not feasible/ cost effective etc to have two separate yards/ handling set up/ machinery etc.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

Is your land in one block, I know stating the obvious which wont be the case but a separate holding no for Afu not workable? Funny trade with my stores at thame yesterday, always scribble down the night before how I value each beast/ pen, probably the most accurate ive ever been across 32 cattle, I was 2.60 out on the average. But fully admit up to 120 out on correct valuation on odd beast, opened up with 5 single steers, 4 very smart, thought I was going to have a disaster of a day as way under what I thought they would make, the plainest made 30 more than one of the better ones, similar weight, but r grade not e, be a harder feeder, then heifers odd bunch and odd plainer few, then my smart heifers @ 14/ 15 months, topped at 1190, and stayed up around that mark, appreciate a premium on heifers, but is it 10ppk? Not going to cover the difference between price of steers.

Heifers finish faster than steers, and if selling live will make more than a steer

 

[gone up the hill]

Heifers finish faster than steers, and if selling live will make more than a steer

Yep and take less grain/cake to fhinsh per day as well.

 

[beefandsleep]

But conversion is not as good as bullocks and they don't grade as well.
I prefer a heifer to graze, easy to farm, less rough on me to handle, don't have to squeeze them as tight in the wagon, I prefer a steer when I get the kill sheet.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

But conversion is not as good as bullocks and they don't grade as well.

Quicker turnover though

 

[gone up the hill]

But conversion is not as good as bullocks and they don't grade as well.

Ref the grading, that will depend on how well they are breed, a U grade heifer will kill out a lot better than a R/0 grade steer and most dairy steers are R or below.

 

[goodevans]

Quicker turnover though

turnover isn't always leftover though

 

[beefandsleep]

Ref the grading, that will depend on how well they are breed, a U grade heifer will kill out a lot better than a R/0 grade heifer and most dairy steers are R or below.

Absolutely but a poor bullock will still weigh, a poor heifer is both a bad grader and a bad weigher