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[gone up the hill]

Sedge today.

An exceptionally busy market considering that the Devon County show was taking place just down the M5 which saw yet again a massive entry of some 930 store cattle and another massive entry of cull ewes and baby calves penned up.

Store cattle, 939 penned up with everything from fit to kill steers/ heifers at 2 years old selling up/down £1100 head to a long run of 31/ 33 month old cattle around the 350 kilo mark and making up/down £500 head.

Trade overall was down by some £40/50 head on last week with many very good runs of strong (450/500 ish kilo ) steers and heifers selling anywhere from £755 to £850 head.

At least 1/3rd penned today were NON FA and these were mostly well bred/ farmed cattle, numbers of NON FA strong store cattle seem to be rising week on week with increasing numbers of vendors talking about quitting the scheme as they just see increased costs and no benefits when selling from it!

Stirks, a shorter entry what was mostly small dairy bred cattle with very few strong/ medium suckler bred sorts also sold to a trade around £40/50 head down on the week.

Sheep, cull ewes sounded a stand on trade from what I was told, 600 store hogs/ Spring lambs penned with spring lambs generally between £70/90 head and hogs with a decent finish up/down/ £85/90 head, still plenty of long keep hogs being penned up which are now seeing very little demand.

Highlight of the day was the orphan lambs with a strong 6 week old ewe lamb making an incredible £60 head.

 

[Werzle]

No profit margin in Fri bulls unless you have access to a lot of cheap feed stocks.

If cattle get massively over supplied the first animals that they will not want is Fri bulls ( and this has happened in the last few years leaving farmers with sheds full of Fri bulls that no one wants.

Also the H+S risk of so many Fri bulls.

If you have Fri steers you have more options, even with TB, you can finish them/ sell them direct to an AFU or put them thru an Orange market, only the first would be an option with Fri bulls and of course if you go clear of TB you could sell all the Fri steers quickly if the store trade was good and you wanted/ needed to reduce numbers due to forage shortages etc.

Aye i have seen fri steers in orange markets, £1 kilo! I understand your comments though.

 

[livestock 1]

Aye i have seen fri steers in orange markets, £1 kilo! I understand your comments though.

They often look cheap but I’ve been waned they know how to eat and not keen of putting weight on

 

[gone up the hill]

Aye i have seen fri steers in orange markets, £1 kilo! I understand your comments though.

When it comes down to TB there is no easy answer.

Utter disgrace that the TB situation has got/ been this bad for so many years and its costing cattle farmers millions if not billions of ££s a year and yet there is still no end in sight to it other than increasing rules/ red tape which are designed to make trading/ farming cattle unviable in many parts of the UK.

 

[Werzle]

Sedge today.

An exceptionally busy market considering that the Devon County show was taking place just down the M5 which saw yet again a massive entry of some 930 store cattle and another massive entry of cull ewes and baby calves penned up.

Store cattle, 939 penned up with everything from fit to kill steers/ heifers at 2 years old selling up/down £1100 head to a long run of 31/ 33 month old cattle around the 350 kilo mark and making up/down £500 head.

Trade overall was down by some £40/50 head on last week with many very good runs of strong (450/500 ish kilo ) steers and heifers selling anywhere from £755 to £850 head.

At least 1/3rd penned today were NON FA and these were mostly well bred/ farmed cattle, numbers of NON FA strong store cattle seem to be rising week on week with increasing numbers of vendors talking about quitting the scheme as they just see increased costs and no benefits when selling from it!

Stirks, a shorter entry what was mostly small dairy bred cattle with very few strong/ medium suckler bred sorts also sold to a trade around £40/50 head down on the week.

Sheep, cull ewes sounded a stand on trade from what I was told, 600 store hogs/ Spring lambs penned with spring lambs generally between £70/90 head and hogs with a decent finish up/down/ £85/90 head, still plenty of long keep hogs being penned up which are now seeing very little demand.

Highlight of the day was the orphan lambs with a strong 6 week old ewe lamb making an incredible £60 head.

31-33 mth cattle weighing 350kg, the mind boggles

 

[livestock 1]

31-33 mth cattle weighing 350kg, the mind boggles

They must be trying to manage that

 

[e3120]

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Not hard to guess which group is scoffing more £/day, but for a lot fewer days.

 

[Old Tip]

Any hogg dw prices for this coming week ?

 

[Anthony222]

Dunbia 4.50

 

[cattleman123]

Dunbia 4.50

Is that for this coming week...

 

[Anthony222]

Is that for this coming week...

Yea monday klll

 

[gone up the hill]

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Not hard to guess which group is scoffing more £/day, but for a lot fewer days.

Hedge your bets:
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Not hard to guess which group is scoffing more £/day, but for a lot fewer days.

Those cattle are a real credit to you as they look in great condition and well reared

How old are they and what is the indoor ones diet??

You haven't thought about feeding the outdoor ones with hard feed as well to push them on a bit quicker?

 

[Shebb90]

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Not hard to guess which group is scoffing more £/day, but for a lot fewer days.

Steers? In shed

 

[gone up the hill]

Dunbia 4.50

How much were they for last week?

 

[e3120]

Those cattle are a real credit to you as they look in great condition and well reared

How old are they and what is the indoor ones diet??

You haven't thought about feeding the outdoor ones with hard feed as well to push them on a bit quicker?

Cheers. Shed bulls would be 6-9 months, getting wheat, barley & maize, some palm kernal, pot ale and a bit of soya.

Those steers are 16-18 months, they're getting a sniff from the snacker, mostly to help handling. These would be the oldest group reared last year and will likely get housed sharpish in the autumn, to be down the road by Christmas. The last batch of 2017's rearing (22-26 months) are also at grass and will get serious feeding in/outside (depending on weather/grass supply) from next month. A well-grown HF steer with a modicum of shape can finish quickly when he takes the notion, while the bull has no ambitions beyond a 2.

What's your new regime, now the B&Ws are history?

 

[copse]

Any hogg dw prices for this coming week ?

RPf £4.20

 

[Shebb90]

Cheers. Shed bulls would be 6-9 months, getting wheat, barley & maize, some palm kernal, pot ale and a bit of soya.

Those steers are 16-18 months, they're getting a sniff from the snacker, mostly to help handling. These would be the oldest group reared last year and will likely get housed sharpish in the autumn, to be down the road by Christmas. The last batch of 2017's rearing (22-26 months) are also at grass and will get serious feeding in/outside (depending on weather/grass supply) from next month. A well-grown HF steer with a modicum of shape can finish quickly when he takes the notion, while the bull has no ambitions beyond a 2.

What's your new regime, now the B&Ws are history?

What age you kill those bills,? And what do you expect when killing them price wise? Looks like you got some cattle about.

 

[e3120]

What age you kill those bills,? And what do you expect when killing them price wise? Looks like you got some cattle about.

15-16 months; price, they're B&W bulls - it's a buyer's market. On paper they're OK, but when 1 or 2 go off their feet and the whole lot are hard to sell it looks different. Just suits to do a batch that way at a time of the year.

 

[Gedd]

Cattle job on the floor 22 bullocks supposed to go next week cancelled woodheads cutting kill can't shift beef

 

[Shebb90]

15-16 months; price, they're B&W bulls - it's a buyer's market. On paper they're OK, but when 1 or 2 go off their feet and the whole lot are hard to sell it looks different. Just suits to do a batch that way at a time of the year.

Would they turn £800-900?