Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Hilly]

I basically told them the price I wanted .that was for cows and clean

What was it ?

 

[Optimus]

That was on Tuesday I spoke to the rep, I’ve cows going in next week she said they would likely be more next week.

Just name your price by the looks of it.

 

[Jimbojrf]

Buyer. Doing his normal trick taking over I hear, won’t be long until other buyers drift away, followed by the sellers

The place will only go in one direction when he starts buying.

 

[sheepwise]

The place will only go in one direction when he starts buying.

How does a buyer ruin a market?

 

[Top Tip.]

How does a buyer ruin a market?

Very easily,seen it happen more than once,when one buyer becomes king of the ring . I know of one dealer who would phone up the other buyers and say to them that there was no point in them coming along, if they would give him the order they would get them cheaper,no point in bidding against each other. The buyers stop coming then the sellers get fed up of one person working 20 accounts and they stop coming too.

 

[Optimus]

What did you ask for

Between £4.15/£4.20 for the clean stuff.probably could of got more.sure the big lads will be on a lot more.

 

[Anymulewilldo]

How does a buyer ruin a market?

By outbidding everyone else or running everybody too death in the stock. Every sale, without fail. After a few weeks the other buyers get sick of either drawing blanks or paying severely over the odds. So they go elsewhere. This leaves the aforementioned buyer with very little competition and he cleans up some very cheap cattle too make up for the dearer ones bought earlier. It’s a long term strategy and a very dirty trick to start on. Good auctioneers don’t allow it too start. But the trouble is the buyer is so useful as they will just keep taking dear cattle. Up until the point where they have no other buyers.

 

[JSmith]

Janet and Alan (Jan-an) Pickstock

Janice and Andrew, very nice straight forward people to deal with, sold out about three years ago! Then some German firm bought it an it’s gone down hill since, bad management etc etc!! Now it’s gone again!! Andrew had all our sheep for twenty years an never a crossed word, last year a new guy came who knows less about the job than my little’un an they started f**kin me about over price an what days they wanted sheep, had 200 springers for them one week last spring an they messed me about over days, said Tuesday but then Thursday, an then tell you there too heavy or won’t be killed for two days etc etc, so they got told to get fecked an didn’t have another sheep again!! Crying shame, used to be run top notch when Andrew owned it!! Markets had them all since an seeing as the jobs been good last 12 months haven’t had nothing to complain about really!!

 

[Anymulewilldo]

Very easily,seen it happen more than once,when one buyer becomes king of the ring . I know of one dealer who would phone up the other buyers and say to them that there was no point in them coming along, if they would give him the order they would get them cheaper,no point in bidding against each other. The buyers stop coming then the sellers get fed up of one person working 20 accounts and they stop coming too.

And this is why I have a not very nice nickname from one or two of the dealers up north because I won’t play their games...

 

[sheepwise]

By outbidding everyone else or running everybody too death in the stock. Every sale, without fail. After a few weeks the other buyers get sick of either drawing blanks or paying severely over the odds. So they go elsewhere. This leaves the aforementioned buyer with very little competition and he cleans up some very cheap cattle too make up for the dearer ones bought earlier. It’s a long term strategy and a very dirty trick to start on. Good auctioneers don’t allow it too start. But the trouble is the buyer is so useful as they will just keep taking dear cattle. Up until the point where they have no other buyers.

40 odd buyers (including a couple of dealers on up to 12 numbers) at store sales in our local mart so no chance of that ever happening here.

 

[Macsky]

Very easily,seen it happen more than once,when one buyer becomes king of the ring . I know of one dealer who would phone up the other buyers and say to them that there was no point in them coming along, if they would give him the order they would get them cheaper,no point in bidding against each other. The buyers stop coming then the sellers get fed up of one person working 20 accounts and they stop coming too.

I can’t understand how the marts let anyone run too many accounts, it’s madness, should be illegal in fact.

 

[sheepwise]

Very easily,seen it happen more than once,when one buyer becomes king of the ring . I know of one dealer who would phone up the other buyers and say to them that there was no point in them coming along, if they would give him the order they would get them cheaper,no point in bidding against each other. The buyers stop coming then the sellers get fed up of one person working 20 accounts and they stop coming too.

The reason that store cattle are so dear is because too many farmers rely on dealers to buy their cattle. Because they aren't working with their own money, they can outbid genuine buyers and then put them into their unsuspecting customers.

 

[Top Tip.]

40 odd buyers (including a couple of dealers on up to 12 numbers) at store sales in our local mart so no chance of that ever happening here.

You are very fortunate. The further north you come the harder it is to get buyers to come up here, it’s not unusual to have sales of sheep with maybe three thousand sheep with one main buyer and a couple of minor buyers especially as you get later in the season.

 

[sheepwise]

You are very fortunate.

Not if your buying

 

[sherg]

Janice and Andrew, very nice straight forward people to deal with, sold out about three years ago! Then some German firm bought it an it’s gone down hill since, bad management etc etc!! Now it’s gone again!! Andrew had all our sheep for twenty years an never a crossed word, last year a new guy came who knows less about the job than my little’un an they started fudgein me about over price an what days they wanted sheep, had 200 springers for them one week last spring an they messed me about over days, said Tuesday but then Thursday, an then tell you there too heavy or won’t be killed for two days etc etc, so they got told to get fecked an didn’t have another sheep again!! Crying shame, used to be run top notch when Andrew owned it!! Markets had them all since an seeing as the jobs been good last 12 months haven’t had nothing to complain about really!!

Out of interest what was the blokes name or initials? Pm if you prefer
Its not me so don't worry

 

[goodevans]

And the other brother is building all the houses on the edge of Ludlow I think

 

[Raider112]

How does a buyer ruin a market?

One caused a bit of upheaval round here a few years ago, he took over really but the regulars were getting their noses put out and made it clear they wouldn't be coming to be outbid so he had to go.

 

[JSmith]

Out of interest what was the blokes name or initials? Pm if you prefer
Its not me so don't worry

If you know you’ll know

 

[Cecil snear]

3.15 for cull cows in st merryn next week

St merryn were 3.15 for clean cattle mid April last year, what a difference a year makes!

 

[sherg]

If you know you’ll know

Got a feeling I might know