Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[cattleman123]

I think they idea is maybe just scratch the surface a bit then spread the seed and hope for the best. Like ideally after cutting

My point is can you claim it on P/P

 

[Shebb90]

My point is can you claim it on P/P

Fars i know you can

 

[harperfarmer]

Are you getting as much crop as a normal temporary silage ley?
Most folk aren’t I’ve spoken to and those that haven’t done it are expecting to forfeit yield for the money.

We are yes, but we didn't push our previous silage ground as hard as say, a dairy man would. We don't apply any N now but getting similar yields as we were before so for us it's a no brainer. Appreciate it wouldn't be for everyone and agree that some of the options are a but stupid, but of all of them the GS4 is one that really works well.

 

[andybk]

My point is can you claim it on P/P

the legume and herb looks a better bet , less £ but better quality feed and more flexibility

 

[Henarar]

But if you are a big estate with expensive employees, you keep the gardener sack the rest & plant the land to bird seed etc, plenty of pheasant food so it's a no brainer.

Hou could do that if you are a farmer, sack yourself and sit back and do nothing bar the garden, no brainer.

 

[Henery]

I have every acre I can in Herbal ley options…. Works very well, and the extra flexibility under SFI is a real winner . We are still farming and collecting sub a different way.
What will undermine it all is the realisation by the media or a new Labour government ,in the near future , is the vast sums being paid to land owners to produce little or nothing, it’s a scandal in the making.
As for the rented land taken back in hand to go into these schemes…. Don’t get me started,

 

[aangus]

My point is can you claim it on P/P

Yes

 

[livestock 1]

There was a couple of heifers with calves at foot went back home on wednesday's sale, and I wouldn't blame the vendor for taking them home, will be easier sold in a couple of months time. Anyone here how the sale went at Wigton with the suckler cows that were for sale

What were the breeding cattle making on Wednesday?

 

[kps]

@gone up the hill, any ideas why calves are struggling in sedge It looked like they were steady last week as? I watched a few in Melton and looked a good trade and Market Drayton looks a good trade as well with plenty of buyers.

 

[Northeastfarmer]

What will undermine it all is the realisation by the media or a new Labour government ,in the near future , is the vast sums being paid to land owners to produce little or nothing, it’s a scandal in the making.

Exactly….at least in the old days the general public got subsidised food from the bps… when it emerges farmers are being paid to grow grass that’s mulched and ploughed in then they’ll be hell on. IMO the money will run out in a few years when they’ve got everyone signed up then the country will be even less self sufficient in safe reliable food….total shambles

 

[aangus]

What were the breeding cattle making on Wednesday?

I only saw the one fella go through and he sold 2 for around £2kish and took 2 home which were bid to £1800ish

 

[livestock 1]

I only saw the one fella go through and he sold 2 for around £2kish and took 2 home which were bid to £1800ish

What sort of types were they at that money? Dairy x or better ?

 

[hally]

There was a couple of heifers with calves at foot went back home on wednesday's sale, and I wouldn't blame the vendor for taking them home, will be easier sold in a couple of months time. Anyone here how the sale went at Wigton with the suckler cows that were for sale

Heard they av about £1850, meant to go as need a few cows but sadly had a funeral that day

 

[livestock 1]

Exactly….at least in the old days the general public got subsidised food from the bps… when it emerges farmers are being paid to grow grass that’s mulched and ploughed in then they’ll be hell on. IMO the money will run out in a few years when they’ve got everyone signed up then the country will be even less self sufficient in safe reliable food….total shambles

I think the same. Apart from today I’ve never heard a one adopting their ‘options’ as farming practice. BPS has been criticised as a land payment for nothing this is called sustainable but in reality is anything but. A land improvement payment would actually be sustainable but that would help production which isn’t what they want. This isn’t sustainable which begs the question what is it all about. Land devaluation? Getting people out of production? Moving food production from the hands of farmers to the government and the mega rich? Most likely the last one a lot of other countries are doing exactly that. If they control food they can control people, they will use environmental blackmail and global warming as an excuse to do it. What strange times we are living in.

 

[livestock 1]

Heard they av about £1850, meant to go as need a few cows but sadly had a funeral that day

There seemed a good mix of cows

 

[hally]

What were the breeding cattle making on Wednesday?

There was a poorer show really but not very dear, a lot of incalf heifers struggling into the high teens.

 

[pellow]

@gone up the hill, any ideas why calves are struggling in sedge It looked like they were steady last week as? I watched a few in Melton and looked a good trade and Market Drayton looks a good trade as well with plenty of buyers.

I don't know if this is the reason but down here a lot of rearers with serious virus pneumonia problems

I would say calves and young cattle are a good buy at the minute if prices stay where they are or continue to improve, I guess the longer the prices stay good the more the younger stuff will get dragged up

 

[livestock 1]

There was a poorer show really but not very dear, a lot of incalf heifers struggling into the high teens.

Not a bad way to replace a few numbers by the sound of things. Sounds cheaper than buying bulling heifers

 

[hally]

Are you getting as much crop as a normal temporary silage ley?
Most folk aren’t I’ve spoken to and those that haven’t done it are expecting to forfeit yield for the money.

That sums it up really, with the payment where it is, in a low input situation it is a no brainer. However competing with a modern ryegrass ley in terms of pure performance .....no chance. Really for different jobs.

 

[hally]

Not a bad way to replace a few numbers by the sound of things. Sounds cheaper than buying bulling heifers

Definitely.....if you trust the seller Bull choice.