Beef / Lamb & Pig Price Tracker

[Aspiring Peasants]

I put a 100 ewes away to winter and was told yesterday no more sheep. they are going down the route of herbal lays. So probably drop the numbers here unless I find somewhere else which will be doubtful

Know 2 people near to me losing grazing for the same reason.

 

[aangus]

I was told there’s a lot of landlords kicking tenants off now so they can plant herbal leys as it’s more lucrative….very short sighted of them imo

Maybe that would free up some winter grazing

 

[aangus]

Know 2 people near to me losing grazing for the same reason.

Another shed could be an option

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Another shed could be an option

If it’s just for winter then definitely. The 2 people I’m thinking of are expecting summer grazing to be affected as well.

 

[gone up the hill]

I put a 100 ewes away to winter and was told yesterday no more sheep. they are going down the route of herbal lays. So probably drop the numbers here unless I find somewhere else which will be doubtful

Yes even at current sheep prices the money they are paying for the over wintered bird seed ( which i guess is what they meant yesterday ) option under SFI means that option will pay a lot better than putting sheep on those fields in the winter months.

And apparently there is about another 60 options for grassland under SFI going to be released this spring/ summer as well.

 

[gone up the hill]

If it’s just for winter then definitely. The 2 people I’m thinking of are expecting summer grazing to be affected as well.

The over wintered bird seed option means it will need to be shut up from stock/mowing by the end of July at the latest!

But on the upside it can be grazed from March onwards so perhaps ideal for turning some cattle out early if weather conditions allow.

 

[aangus]

Yes even at current sheep prices the money they are paying for the over wintered bird seed ( which i guess is what they meant yesterday ) option under SFI means that option will pay a lot better than putting sheep on those fields in the winter months.

And apparently there is about another 60 options for grassland under SFI going to be released this spring/ summer as well.

60 bloody hell how many options do they want

 

[gone up the hill]

Another shed could be an option

Trouble is that is a very costly option for housing other than for short periods like lambing when you take into account the cost of straw/ making silage etc.

 

[gone up the hill]

60 bloody hell how many options do they want

I think they will over complicate the scheme so much that in about 18/24 months time it will be pared back a lot option wise.

 

[Estate fencing.]

If there blowing £20 now when hoggs are £150, they where making £30 a few months ago when they where £100.

 

[Aspiring Peasants]

Trouble is that is a very costly option for housing other than for short periods like lambing when you take into account the cost of straw/ making silage etc.

As a mostly owner occupier whose knocking on a bit, with all PP in a LFA, I’ve done the sums, and it looks as if I’ll be better off putting the place into herbal leys, low input grassland, legumes, etc and keeping less stock. It will actually be a good way of drifting into semi retirement while guaranteeing a reasonable income for the next 3 years. Before this the original plan was to let some ground out, but the scheme looks more attractive.

I can’t be the only one, so that’s less being produced and less opportunities for others

 

[harperfarmer]

Trouble is that is a very costly option for housing other than for short periods like lambing when you take into account the cost of straw/ making silage etc.

I'm sure there's a lot more money can be earned by putting a shed up than can earnt by buying land. The inheritance tax benefits etc are starting to be outweighed by the sheer cost of it.

 

[Average Farmerboy]

If there blowing £20 now when hoggs are £150, they where making £30 a few months ago when they where £100.

 

[harperfarmer]

I think they will over complicate the scheme so much that in about 18/24 months time it will be pared back a lot option wise.

I think it'll soon be put on a quota when they realise the uptake and how much its going to cost them. Ie can only put a % of the farm into it.

 

[Hilly]

Perhaps it is not us that needs to cut costs and become more efficient , maybe its them further up from the farm /auction mart gate that need to cut costs and become more efficient

 

[Northeastfarmer]

I think it'll soon be put on a quota when they realise the uptake and how much its going to cost them. Ie can only put a % of the farm into it.

These schemes won’t last long imo….paying farmers to grow herbs and flowers?!
The general public are getting less for their tax now than they were before…least they got cheap food before

 

[Hilly]

I'm sure there's a lot more money can be earned by putting a shed up than can earnt by buying land. The inheritance tax benefits etc are starting to be outweighed by the sheer cost of it.

Thats what i did , i cant buy land here owned by a duke round me and if he sells he sells big bits £££ renting well everyone chasing rented land im not even going to bother entering that race so shed it was …. Invested in worse things…

 

[Hilly]

These schemes won’t last long imo….paying farmers to grow herbs and flowers?!
The general public are getting less for their tax now than they were before…least they got cheap food before

All the talk up here , hell o a land going into that !! Some of the suppliers are starting to sweat now ….

 

[Hilly]

Alot of arable lads and myself included biggest issue is machinery costs now ,,, the gear is out of control £££ and service repairs not for the faint hearted either … imo one of the biggest issues going forward really , bad buy could about finish you …

 

[Hilly]

If scotland offer good money for growing herbs the country will starve ….