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Good point, I didnt think of that. It seemed a rather meagre number, not the sort of numbers government take much notice off sadly[emoji26]
Beet yields 2020
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Mixedupfarmer
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If they don't listen to British Sugar and it's parent company and their political connections, I don't really think a few farmers signing a petition is going to sway it?
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- Lincolnshire
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- Lincolnshire
Quite frankly they should have sent it to Princess nut nuts,probably get more attention!
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- Breckland
It feels to me that it is merely a token effort on the part of nfusugar. The neonic ban and the consequences of it are well known and have been for some time. Last year we (the growers) got away with it, this year not.
The nfu sugar committee should have been shouting from the minute we knew yields were going to suffer. Not after BS have applied for a derogation.
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I don't mean so sound like a broken record but that is typical of NFU sugar, as ive previously said when discussing beet pricing they are just completely pee useless.
Yet we still have to keep paying them via the levy.
Why don't you put yourself up to be a grower rep? I'll vote for you. In other news my first lift had sugars in the mid 16s. Second lift mid 15s
My opinion is that bad cercospora is not getting the blame it should be in amongst all this yellows chat. We need fungicides that work ASAP.
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- Breckland
Unfortunately it seems that many of organisations who supposedly represent us aren't fit for purpose. Nepotism on a grand scale.
Mixedupfarmer
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- Norfolk
Don't really know why they want to keep it a secret either? Do more good getting the facts across to the press with the effects on farms, jobs, loss of habitat created by the beet crop, food for the swans etc. If it gets the ok, it will look like a massive cover up by the evil farmers. If it does not get the ok, it will still look like a cover up.
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Unfortunately I dont think it matters who is voted onto the board, infact they have a lot of very good individuals already its the whole NFU mantra which causes the whole sugar board to loss there bite.
I completely agree @flat10, regards cercospora, it's a relatively new and under rated disease in the uk but is going to become the buggy in the next few years. There isnt any fungicide that's particularly strong on it and this year theres some beet fields locally that have been burnt to a crisp by the disease.
I completely agree @flat10, regards cercospora, it's a relatively new and under rated disease in the uk but is going to become the buggy in the next few years. There isnt any fungicide that's particularly strong on it and this year theres some beet fields locally that have been burnt to a crisp by the disease.
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- Breckland
Fresh blood is needed but I fear its too late.Why don't you put yourself up to be a grower rep? I'll vote for you. In other news my first lift had sugars in the mid 16s. Second lift mid 15s
My opinion is that bad cercospora is not getting the blame it should be in amongst all this yellows chat. We need fungicides that work ASAP.
It takes years to infiltrate into these committees. Years of blindingly dull meetings and arse licking. I could stick the meetings but I won't pretend to like or agree with people I don't. It's not for me.
We need to know how they manage it on the continent. My understanding was that epoxiconazole was the best azole but that's now gone. I've had 2 crops very badly affected by it in the last 2 years.
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You've hit the nail on the head, the individual who put themselves up all have a lot of good ideas and ambition to improve things when you read there biography in the voting pack but once they're voted on they all seem to become muted and wrapped in cotton wool or just political bullpoo(call it what you like) and nothing changes and everything just bumbles along like it has since the inception of the sugar board.....its sad for those who put themselves forward and for the growers who put there hope in them.
It was always thought of as a continental disease and has caught us on the hop a bit epoxi was about the best.
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- northampton
There was a bit on radio 4 about neonics and bees
www.bbc.co.uk
BBC Radio 4 - Apocalypse How, Insectageddon
Could our food supplies be at risk from a worldwide decline in pollinating insects?
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- the brecks norfolk
Cer-cos-pora
2nd lift into factory sugars better at 16 % sugar but adjusted yield 50 % down on 5 year average .
Keeping everything crossed for a derogation on neonics . The way weather patterns seem to be at minute and predicted to get warmer cold snaps strong enough to deplete overwintered aphids seems unlikely
Keeping everything crossed for a derogation on neonics . The way weather patterns seem to be at minute and predicted to get warmer cold snaps strong enough to deplete overwintered aphids seems unlikely
Next lump did 71 ,adjusted 16.6 , 6 % tareFirst 50 acre just gone in 64 ton 16,4 sugarlight flinty sand and one patch of heavy shire
Hope 47 acre what lifted yesterday does better , should do it’s off some nice silt
Waiting ,for next 47 acre to go in end of week off silts , shouldbbe better some good big beet
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- Essex
I think the virus yellow issue is overshadowing the fact that Cercospera is brewing into a big problem as well. As with virus yellows, we don’t currently have a chemical to control it. My late lifting beet are not looking as clean or green as I would like, but apparently a third fungicide would have made no difference to Cercospera.