Best cow for seasonal spring calving

[paddler]

You are forgetting australia is a big place. Down south has the exact conditions you describe almost every winter. It’s a miserable shît hole.

Clay52, Stinker is describing summer not winter.

 

[Irish NZ]

What sort of yields are you getting from kiwi cows cross is there much variation in cows

There is a variation in every herd/breed.

No idea what litres we are doing.... but we did 530kgms last season

 

[sidjon]

There is a variation in every herd/breed.

No idea what litres we are doing.... but we did 530kgms last season

Kgms to kg of bodyweight?

 

[Irish NZ]

Kgms to kg of bodyweight?

Mature cows are 490kg

 

[Cows 'n grass]

There is a variation in every herd/breed.

No idea what litres we are doing.... but we did 530kgms last season

Mature cows are 490kg

No one likes a show off.

 

[sidjon]

Mature cows are 490kg

Was 30kgms behind you last season with same weight cows , we won't talk about this year

 

[Llmmm]

Was 30kgms behind you last season with same weight cows , we won't talk about this year

No one likes a show off.

A

There is a variation in every herd/breed.

No idea what litres we are doing.... but we did 530kgms last season

Are you just using jersey friesian bulls on jersey friesian cows what are the advantages over high fertility high health trait nz friesian

 

[Dead Rabbits]

Was 30kgms behind you last season with same weight cows , we won't talk about this year

He cheats

 

[Irish NZ]

He cheats

Says mixer wagon boy

 

[Llmmm]

What about pure nz jerseys there supposed to be the toughest cow out there with high fertility while yield per cow would be low it could be solved by upping numbers my concern with american and dainish jerseys is they have come from indoor tmr systems not on grass based

 

[Irish NZ]

A

Are you just using jersey friesian bulls on jersey friesian cows what are the advantages over high fertility high health trait nz friesian

I don't want a big friesian cow. They spent everyday outside I need a lighter cow. The cross gives us the cow we want

 

[Irish NZ]

What about pure nz jerseys there supposed to be the toughest cow out there with high fertility while yield per cow would be low it could be solved by upping numbers my concern with american and dainish jerseys is they have come from indoor tmr systems not on grass based

Nz Jersey wake up thinking or new ways to die. They are in no way the toughest out there. Even my hardcore Jersey breeding mate will admit that it's a battle to keep them alive

 

[Llmmm]

Nz Jersey wake up thinking or new ways to die. They are in no way the toughest out there. Even my hardcore Jersey breeding mate will admit that it's a battle to keep them alive

 

[Llmmm]

Nz Jersey wake up thinking or new ways to die. They are in no way the toughest out there. Even my hardcore Jersey breeding mate will admit that it's a battle to keep them alive

So where does the hardiness im these kiwi crosses come from is it nz friesian or is it just when the combined ive never tried either

 

[Cows 'n grass]

Nz Jersey wake up thinking or new ways to die. They are in no way the toughest out there. Even my hardcore Jersey breeding mate will admit that it's a battle to keep them alive

They really can be quite inventive. I had an R2 heifer a few years back that must have been trying to scale a big earth hedge and she'd slipped but got caught with her head in the V of a tree where two branches split and she managed to hang herself.

Most just try to explode if you show them more than 3 clover leaves a day.

 

[Cows 'n grass]

You need to pick good uddered bulls when using LIC but they have all got a lot better in the last decade. Pure NZ jerseys can be very small as well

I like the Danish ones, they're just a good middle of the road sort of animal. Most won't win you prizes for being pretty and they won't milk themselves to death like some American cows.

 

[sidjon]

A

Are you just using jersey friesian bulls on jersey friesian cows what are the advantages over high fertility high health trait nz friesian

Mostly kiwi x bulls , but have used sexed Jersey this year and probably not used any Jersey straw for 3 years, seems to work okay

 

[Agrispeed]

Most just try to explode if you show them more than 3 clover leaves a day.

I was speaking to a sciencey person about this today, I never have to really worry about bloat in my cows, even grazing red clover and lucerne, is it a acclimatisation thing, breeding or something else?

I've never had much luck with pure jerseys. Several were chronic lame cows, which goes against everything I know about jerseys. They always seemed to struggle with carrying condition too.

 

[Agrispeed]

You don't get the prettiest herd, but I only have 2 pure cows now. Everything is either a KiwiX, Guensey, Normandie or Ayrshire cross.

 

[Clay52]

So where does the hardiness im these kiwi crosses come from is it nz friesian or is it just when the combined ive never tried either

It’s more from the lack of any production.