Best Thing The UK Govt. Could Do? According To The UKs "Richest" Man

Jonp

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
Energy prices have risen as Green Energy has been adopted.

UK fossil fuel companies invested in Russia BECAUSE UK Green extremists banned them from new fossil fuels in the UK - which literally enabled Putin to re-arm. That investment - in the 10s if not 100s of £Billions - was lost at the start of the Ukraine War.

Climate Levy, FITs, Smart meters, regulation, legislation, Carbon Trading and the banning of various fossil fuels.

The net result is the Super Rich get Richer and the poor get poorer.

Brought to you by all the Liberals (Labour & Conservative), Labour, Greens, SNP, World Economic Forum, European Union & United Nations etc. I wonder how many of these politicians are making a killing - literally killing people so they get vastly rich.

It doesn't matter what Humans do, the world has been getting warmer for 1,000s of years, seas have risen 250 metres and no matter what happens as a result of the Green Extremists - the sea regulates CO2 anyway, the warmer it gets the more CO2 is released.

Climate Change is just another Scam.
Even if we believed the scam and all moved into cities, abandoned the countryside to rewilding, global green Britain would not make a jot of difference.
Meanwhile our economy dies the death of a thousand cuts.
 

Qman

Member
Mixed Farmer
Location
Near Derby
This government is 100% delusional, and all went down the pan when Boris was elected. The majority of the public were taken in by the bumbling eject, I think he might have been ok PM if he hadn’t been lead by his wife and the Goldsmiths.

So you think Mrs May was doing a good job? I didn't, she was worse than useless and I would have Boris back tomorrow.
 

Jonp

Member
Livestock Farmer
Location
Gwent
If we are all to drive around in EVs and be surrounded by renewable energy sources, where are all the metals and rare earth elements going to come from to build them?
What energy source are we going to use to extract and refine them?
What energy source are we going to use to manufacture these products?
Hydrocarbons.
We should frack all the gas we can in the UK until someone comes up with a better idea. After all, energy is what makes the world go round, and we should not disadvantage ourselves by passing on this economic resource on our doorstep.
 
So you think Mrs May was doing a good job? I didn't, she was worse than useless and I would have Boris back tomorrow.


I cant print what I think of that May wretch.

On knife crime alone, the removal of stop and search, she must have killed 100s as a result.

Far more people now carry a knife because they feel the need to do so, May is an utterly vile character.

Boris is better than most of the Conservative Party, which isn't saying much.
 

robs1

Member
He is a fool taking short term benefits over long term ones, fracking gas is not a good idea, for a lot of reasons.
Not least the risk to underground drinking water, and the fact they can never predict the outcome of fracking.

roll that over to net zero goals it’s a road to nowhere,
When you look at the scale of the problems we will be facing over the coming century what you don’t do now is add to them or invest in things that will only cost double or triple or much much more later to correct.

This video talks about the problems and the shear scale of them, to even have a hope of keeping the wheels on the bus turning like they do now.
Costs escalate over time the further along we go down our continued use of fossil fuels the more expensive we make correcting the problems they cause. Carbon capture is massively expensive, and we make the need for it ever more likely the longer we avoid dealing with the problems. It’s better to cut our emissions than try to clean them up, which the video covers.

Of reducing emissions is a good idea, what are you doing on a personal scale ?
 

Dave645

Member
Arable Farmer
Location
N Lincs
Of reducing emissions is a good idea, what are you doing on a personal scale ?
good question.
its a long list.
I built a passive house to live in, fitted solar hot water and ground source heat pump for it, to avoid using oil or LPG gas had all LED lighting installed in it I only buy the best rated appliances. I don't drive unless needed, I haven't flown on holiday in the last 5 years, I don't buy rubbish I don't need, I don't travel on a whim I avoid wasted journeys where possible staking jobs up so I can do multiple things on one trip where possible. I run a 8 year old car and do about 4k miles per year and am unlikely to change it any time soon, I changed to, direct drilling on the farm, by building my own drill, cut my fuel use and cultivation work as much as possible lowed inputs as much as is sensible, repair my own equipment.
I have changed all my garden equipment to electric including a robot mower that now cuts all the grass in the farm yard for a a tiny amount of electric and zero of my time and it looks better than it ever has.
sure I could add solar pv and likely will if I can get partners to agree to putting a large array on a farm shed roof. my house roof has solar water that provides me heat and hot water already.
I don't buy news papers or magazines, I do use the internet, I do use auto steer to avoid wasted time and inputs.

no one is perfect and until things like green nitrogen come along some things I cannot avoid if and when I do buy a car my first choice will be an EV but its unlikely to be a new one.
I make choices every day to do better when I can, I used to buy books now I don't.

my suggestion to anyone is when you come to making a choice one that you are in control of, look for the more sustainable option. the tool that will last you a lifetime not the one that will break the first time you use it, buying quality if you can afford it nearly always is the more sustainable option. buy cheap and buy twice, is not a made up saying. . . find the balance between quality a price, and reliability in all things with half an eye on the future.
 

Cowabunga

Member
Location
Ceredigion,Wales
Thought we were supposed to be reducing GHG emissions. Remember he has oil/gas/ chemical companies.

He's right though, as a country we can become uncompetitive due to energy costs.
He wants to reduce UK energy price. His major chemical company plants that consume gas are mainly based in the EU not the UK so he has a better perspective and insight than most.
 

bluebell

Member
Thats a bit of a hippercritical arguement, same as british farmers on the one hand moaning about the public not buying "british" produced, farmed ,made food, but but, they buy claas, fendt, etc etc very expensive? farm equipment? Im not a supporter at all of sir jim radcliffe, but him running his businesss is one thing, like farmers are? but the comment about the UKS "energy" its price, the security, etc etc, is the far "bigger" picture, and in my view it makes alot of "common" sense? As for all this "helping", "giving" all this very very expensive , military equipment to ukraine, i bet when the "war" ends, all this "help" will soon be "forgotten"
 

kiwi pom

Member
Location
canterbury NZ
Thats a bit of a hippercritical arguement, same as british farmers on the one hand moaning about the public not buying "british" produced, farmed ,made food, but but, they buy claas, fendt, etc etc very expensive? farm equipment? Im not a supporter at all of sir jim radcliffe, but him running his businesss is one thing, like farmers are? but the comment about the UKS "energy" its price, the security, etc etc, is the far "bigger" picture, and in my view it makes alot of "common" sense? As for all this "helping", "giving" all this very very expensive , military equipment to ukraine, i bet when the "war" ends, all this "help" will soon be "forgotten"
It won't be forgotten, they'll be paying it back for years. The Americans will probably have the best deals secured though.
 
I think it comes down to investment horizons.

The gift has everyone focused on 2035 2050 plus so they can’t be held accountable in office.

the business man’s has 0 -10 year investment horizon.

politically saying banning petrol cars come 2035 is brilliant, they get the votes, they never have to deliver this, when 2035 comes and the vehicles aren’t there or the grid they are long gone on a fat wage.

Ant….
 

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