Best use for 465m square planning permission, views wanted.

[wasted years]

Ok, I have permission under PN for a farm building up to 465m square.
According to my planning consultant I am not limited height wise and in the first instance my most pressing need is for straw storage however going forward I may want to use the building as a silage pit so would leave room either end to expand.
I am on a greenfield site that I intend to establish a new farm on , in this instance I intend to get someone to supply and erect the shed .
My main question is what width and height is most efficient in terms of use of the PN and cost the building?
Any views welcome.

 

[Still Farming]

3 storey maybe ???

 

[Wombat]

You are limited to a maximum height of 12m on PN

 

[Forever Fendt]

Ok, I have permission under PN for a farm building up to 465m square.
According to my planning consultant I am not limited height wise and in the first instance my most pressing need is for straw storage however going forward I may want to use the building as a silage pit so would leave room either end to expand.
I am on a greenfield site that I intend to establish a new farm on , in this instance I intend to get someone to supply and erect the shed .
My main question is what width and height is most efficient in terms of use of the PN and cost the building?
Any views welcome.

50 ft if its going to be a silage pit max or you may not get across the face fast enough

 

[Steevo]

Ok, I have permission under PN for a farm building up to 465m square.
According to my planning consultant I am not limited height wise and in the first instance my most pressing need is for straw storage however going forward I may want to use the building as a silage pit so would leave room either end to expand.
I am on a greenfield site that I intend to establish a new farm on , in this instance I intend to get someone to supply and erect the shed .
My main question is what width and height is most efficient in terms of use of the PN and cost the building?
Any views welcome.

Surely if you have permission you had to state the dimensions?

 

[chaffcutter]

100' x 45' or 120' x 40' (nearest to metric equivalents) just about the most useful (and fully usable) space for any possible future use imo

 

[Wombat]

Surely if you have permission you had to state the dimensions?

I even had to draw a red box on a map as well. Didn't want any plans though. Just size and height plus footprint map

 

[wasted years]

Surely if you have permission you had to state the dimensions?

No just marked a site plan .

 

[wasted years]

100' x 45' or 120' x 40' (nearest to metric equivalents) just about the most useful (and fully usable) space for any possible future use imo

That's what I was thinking, maybe some of the shed builders will offer an opinion on which size is cheapest.

 

[Pennine Ploughing]

120x40 would be the cheaper for the span, but get it about 6 meter to the eves, so can put a lean to on at later date

 

[Tarw Coch]

120x40 would be the cheaper for the span, but get it about 6 meter to the eves, so can put a lean to on at later date

If it's for a silage pit at some point you want to be more like 30 feet to eaves.............unless you're going wagon or ejector trailer. Look up the tipped heights for silage trailers in manufacturers brochures and remember trailers keep getting bigger so make it higher than to suit what you use now.

 

[wasted years]

If it's for a silage pit at some point you want to be more like 30 feet to eaves.............unless you're going wagon or ejector trailer. Look up the tipped heights for silage trailers in manufacturers brochures and remember trailers keep getting bigger so make it higher than to suit what you use now.

Yep we do run our own wagon at present and that won't be changing AFAIK.First use will be for straw then silage longer term.
What would be a ballpark figure for 120x40 foot erected, just the legs and roof erected, like a modern dutch barn effectively?

 

[Tarw Coch]

Yep we do run our own wagon at present and that won't be changing AFAIK.First use will be for straw then silage longer term.
What would be a ballpark figure for 120x40 foot erected, just the legs and roof erected, like a modern dutch barn effectively?

Id still want to go higher than the 6m previously suggested, I'd be thinking at least 12ft of silage, a tractor at least 10ft on top of that and having buck raked inside I know how close the roof can feel when you're not that close so I'd want another couple of feet for operator comfort, I'd be thinking not less than 25ft.

 

[Philip Watkins]

... and having buck raked inside I know how close the roof can feel when you're not that close .......

You're not close till you scrape the cab on the rafters been there, done that.

 

[Tarw Coch]

You're not close till you scrape the cab on the rafters been there, done that.

At which point you've done more damage than a couple of foot on the steels.

 

[Philip Watkins]

At which point you've done more damage than a couple of foot on the steels.

When you're working for a contractor and the grass has to go in the customers pit you don't have much choice.

 

[BobGreen]

You're not close till you scrape the cab on the rafters been there, done that.

Your close when you have no cab on and steering wheel is catching rafters !

 

[Tarw Coch]

When you're working for a contractor and the grass has to go in the customers pit you don't have much choice.

Used to work for a contractor and one farm had a silage shed with Dutch barn on the side, no walls between them, all filled as one, they used to push the silage up till there was only about a couple of foot to crawl throug between the sheds when sheeting the pit!

 

[Philip Watkins]

Your close when you have no cab on and steering wheel is catching rafters !

Easier to judge where the roof is when there's no cab