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- Lincolnshire
1/4 of UK households have under £500 of readily available cash savings. But I take all your points that many could have if they didn't spend it all. But let's face it, the government bails almost everyone out now.
Best way to deal with a non paying tenant in rented farmhouse
- Thread starter nosmokenopoke
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1/4 of UK households have under £500 of readily available cash savings. But I take all your points that many could have if they didn't spend it all. But let's face it, the government bails almost everyone out now.
caveman
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- East Sussex.
And chucked the perfectly serviceable originals.
Johnnyboxer
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- Location
- Yorkshire
Do you have one in your village too?I blame that "jones" family again
- Location
- Northumberland
@nosmokenopoke I haven’t read through the whole thread, but you won’t be able to do anything quickly. I’ve been trying to evict tenants since Oct’19, but the courts system has been badly gummed up during the past 16 months and they have been closed to eviction cases for much of that time. I have a possession order, and now a warrant for possession but the bailiffs cannot enforce it currently and the stay on evictions keeps being pushed back (currently it expires 31stMarch)
I’d issue themwith both S21 and S8 eviction notices; you now must give 6monthsnotice of eviction, but your S8 may be enforceable in a shorter timeframe if they owe over 6 months rent.
Id advise looking on a specialist forum -I use Landlordzone; the folks there have been most helpful in my learning curve.
I’d issue themwith both S21 and S8 eviction notices; you now must give 6monthsnotice of eviction, but your S8 may be enforceable in a shorter timeframe if they owe over 6 months rent.
Id advise looking on a specialist forum -I use Landlordzone; the folks there have been most helpful in my learning curve.
- Location
- Northumberland
@nosmokenopoke If getting the cash owed is your primary aim, look into using MCOL (Money Claim Online -a Govt service) which should result in either you getting the money or them getting a CCJ.
I should add that possession proceedings or MCOL will only succeed if you’ve been conducting the tenancy correctly (gas safety certificates, valid EPC, How To Rent booklet, deposit protected correctly etc etc, and remember you will need a valid EICR for the property before the end of this month.
‘Tis fun being a landlord
I should add that possession proceedings or MCOL will only succeed if you’ve been conducting the tenancy correctly (gas safety certificates, valid EPC, How To Rent booklet, deposit protected correctly etc etc, and remember you will need a valid EICR for the property before the end of this month.
‘Tis fun being a landlord
- Location
- somerset
we can beat that, toilet, larder door, bath panel, lights, but failed to completely remove the mixer taps on the bath, it's why, that particular lady was helped, by us, when she divorces, and left on good terms, till we looked round after.
lights cut off at ceiling level, a mess left, all common.
Cousin let a very respectable lady, for a short term, she had asked for, and been give paint for a tidy up, painted several walls, but not behind pictures, just round them ! After leaving, all carpets had to be removed, and windows left open, the house stank of dog sh1t and pi55. Thankfully i do not have any rented out properties anymore.
- Location
- Northumberland
@nosmokenopoke If your paperwork is not all in order (eg if you cannot prove that you provided the tenants with all of the correct documents at the start of the tenancy), you may find it difficult to evict using the courts system. Take advice on this.
You may find that the least painful way to regain possession of the property is to offer your tenants a very large sum of money to go away.
Courts, solicitors etc are very expensive. Although I’m ‘in the right’ in my case, I still tried offering my tenants cash representing ~6 months worth of rent to go (this was later last year when courts were not yet functioning and there was the prospect of CV cases rising again over winter). They declined the offer so are still there. We await the bailiffs, who will hopefully be around before the end of the year.
Do NOT do anything illegal; it will rebound on you much worse than it inconveniences them.
You may find that the least painful way to regain possession of the property is to offer your tenants a very large sum of money to go away.
Courts, solicitors etc are very expensive. Although I’m ‘in the right’ in my case, I still tried offering my tenants cash representing ~6 months worth of rent to go (this was later last year when courts were not yet functioning and there was the prospect of CV cases rising again over winter). They declined the offer so are still there. We await the bailiffs, who will hopefully be around before the end of the year.
Do NOT do anything illegal; it will rebound on you much worse than it inconveniences them.
nosmokenopoke
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I know where he works and he’s never away from farm
Johnnyboxer
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- Yorkshire
He might be homeworking, now
His offices may be closed
A lot of people, never leave the house and haven't for 12 months now
Doesn't mean that they aren't working though
Chasingmytail
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- Newport, SE Wales
Having done horse livery a few years ago (hated it) you realise how fake people are. Turn up with fab references, talk the talk, promise the world, pay perfectly for a few months then their real personality comes out, nasty, lying, expect you to pump up tyres, jump start their cars etc, then it all goes wrong. Fail to pay, start gossiping about you on FB sites. Same with renting out a few containers on the yard. Some of the bull that spews out of their mouths. You realise so many people are awful. No one is welcome here to rent anything. The current house we live in is farm tied and eventually we will move into the farmhouse when renovations have finished. I point blank refuse to rent this bungalow out to anyone.
I know a lot of people use rental for future pension funds and see nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is blessed with final salary pensions. I know plenty of people blessed with £50k plus pa. Those days are gone. Some of us have nothing squirreled away.
I know a lot of people use rental for future pension funds and see nothing wrong with that. Not everyone is blessed with final salary pensions. I know plenty of people blessed with £50k plus pa. Those days are gone. Some of us have nothing squirreled away.
toquark
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I find myself actually agreeing with @glasshouse for once in that if it weren't for Brown raiding the pension funds, millions of people would never have needed to resort to BTL in the first place. BTL in my view has been a disaster for the housing market and young people in general.
As far as the OP's problem is concerned - forget the £5k. Just get them out.
As far as the OP's problem is concerned - forget the £5k. Just get them out.
warksfarmer
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Go and get £1,000 cash out of the bank and go and offer it to him to leave. Agree a time when the house will be empty and make sure you have a lock smith with you. Video you giving him the cash whilst talking to the camera this is payment to leave. Then change the locks and sell the house because renting property is a nightmare. I’ve a friend who’s got 68 houses. He’s got two permanent debt collectors in work.
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- Portsmouth
Don't trust "referencing" even from agency's.
You need to do it yourself.
I paid for industry leading referencing and came very close to a serial non payer ending up in our rental. Turns out with a bit of digging on land registry, I knew the owners of the place they were currently renting (hadn't paid rent for 6 months though)
Everything was pretty much fabricated and the professional reference agency missed most of it....it was gut feeling in the end and a few hours on Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, companies House etc paid dividends.
I also insist on a guarantor.
You need to do it yourself.
I paid for industry leading referencing and came very close to a serial non payer ending up in our rental. Turns out with a bit of digging on land registry, I knew the owners of the place they were currently renting (hadn't paid rent for 6 months though)
Everything was pretty much fabricated and the professional reference agency missed most of it....it was gut feeling in the end and a few hours on Google, Facebook, LinkedIn, companies House etc paid dividends.
I also insist on a guarantor.
serf
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- warwickshire
Doesn't every one
How can you ask if the agent checked references and then suggest to get them out writing a glowing reference which wouldn't be true
- Location
- Snodland kent
What you write once they're out is up to you, I'm just think for myself.How can you ask if the agent checked references and then suggest to get them out writing a glowing reference which wouldn't be true
serf
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- warwickshire
Your correct, returns might be low and the job grief with livestock but when you compare it to dealing with the 2 legged livestock its a walk in the park , poor but happy comes to mind !
Master of your own destiny , not living in the hope that your tenant screws up and leaves you high and dry .
Guarantor - good point! Got us out of bother once, they 'persuaded' tenant to leave as they didn't want CCJ on themselves!!
- Location
- Huntingdon, UK
Forget about the Rangerover or anything else you think he owns. It’s either on hire purchase or in his mrs’ name etc.
Tell your agent to get them out asap. If you try and get the money back it’ll cost you more in the long run. Agents fees, new bathroom, new kitchen will be a lot more than £5k
Tell your agent to get them out asap. If you try and get the money back it’ll cost you more in the long run. Agents fees, new bathroom, new kitchen will be a lot more than £5k
Johnnyboxer
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- Yorkshire
One problem
You have to give them 6 months notice, under the Govt new Covid rules to protect tenants
How are you proposing to evict them?