Best way to deal with a non paying tenant in rented farmhouse

[Northdowns Martin]

@No Smoke No Poke difficult situation you’re in. Have you tried talking to understand their position? Many get themselves in difficulty and don’t know how to deal with it. Presumably you or your agent checked references to insure they had a clean history before agreeing a tenancy. They will struggle to get private housing now for defaulting which they may not realise. Talking and coming to an agreement maybe yours and their only way forward because you will eventually get them out, they will require further accommodation and a glowing reference from you will be advantageous!

 

[Will 1594]

6 month notice now , with COVID

 

[nosmokenopoke]

@No Smoke No Poke difficult situation you’re in. Have you tried talking to understand their position? Many get themselves in difficulty and don’t know how to deal with it. Presumably you or your agent checked references to insure they had a clean history before agreeing a tenancy. They will struggle to get private housing now for defaulting which they may not realise. Talking and coming to an agreement maybe yours and their only way forward because you will eventually get them out, they will require further accommodation and a glowing reference from you will be advantageous!

Yeah tried talking, they’re saying they’re trying their best to work as much as possible, which they arent. All checks were done. He was averaging £4500 a month income 4 years ago.

 

[Grouse]

I’ve maybe put the wrong idea across, 4 year old Range Rover sport autobiography sitting at their door

had a very similar problem a few years ago - plus they were subletting and damaging the property. Holes kicked in walls, stairs damaged, fire extinguishers let off.

A few friends went in there and physically moved all their belongings out, dumped in the street and changed locks - their belongings were soon moved.

Do not leave it.

 

[ewald]

As a small-scale landlord (3 cottages let) over the last 20 years, I have reluctantly decided that the game is over
My main concerns are:
The power shift from landlord to tenant - it is now very difficult to evict a determined and well informed tenant in a sensible time scale and without major expense (both legal costs and foregone rent)

The proposed ratcheting up of Epc requirements from band E to band C by 2030 - I am advised that this will be very expensive for old solid-walled property, typically anything pre-war

A general negativity towards private landlords

So, in the words of Dragons Den, I’m out

 

[Johnnyboxer]

Yeah tried talking, they’re saying they’re trying their best to work as much as possible, which they arent. All checks were done. He was averaging £4500 a month income 4 years ago.

How do you know he’s not working?

 

[Exfarmer]

What a load of rubbish. Money was being made from residential letting way, way, before ‘88.

Rachman made a fortune and another man I know similar, wont name him though as he may have offspring on here

 

[puppet]

I don't know the age of his Autobiography but earning £4500 a month would not usually be enough to afford one. May not own it but should be handing it back and buying a second-hand Corsa. There are obvious ways to reduce their outgoings.
Not a great situation for you.

 

[Exfarmer]

I don't know the age of his Autobiography but earning £4500 a month would not usually be enough to afford one. May not own it but should be handing it back and buying a second-hand Corsa. There are obvious ways to reduce their outgoings.
Not a great situation for you.

There is a little house near here, which I am certain is tenanted, over the last few years I have seen parked on its very small front garden a succession of very expensive cars, including top end Range Rovers , an F type and a couple of Porsches. Last week was a very battered Corsa. How much some people have chucked away on one up-manship in the last few years is beyond belief.
On the flip side of the coin, a friend who installs swimming pools says he has never been so busy, with people who have spent 10’s of thousands on foreign holidays suddenly finding cash in their pockets. He and his staff have over 2 years work and they are now regularly working all weekends

 

[serf]

How much some people have chucked away on one up-manship in the last few years is beyond belief.

I blame that "jones" family again

 

[steveR]

As a small-scale landlord (3 cottages let) over the last 20 years, I have reluctantly decided that the game is over
My main concerns are:
The power shift from landlord to tenant - it is now very difficult to evict a determined and well informed tenant in a sensible time scale and without major expense (both legal costs and foregone rent)

The proposed ratcheting up of Epc requirements from band E to band C by 2030 - I am advised that this will be very expensive for old solid-walled property, typically anything pre-war

A general negativity towards private landlords

So, in the words of Dragons Den, I’m out

The EPC aspect is a major concern for me too. We have done one cottage, but two more to go, and the rental income cannot reflect the big costs involved, especially when the problem of a difficult tenant is factored in.

Think that we might look to sell one away from the home farm if the projected costs are too high.

 

[7610 super q]

Shame. Older folks with property could earn a crust in retirement by renting out to younger folks who can't get on the ladder. Win win. As with all good things, letting property has been ruined by abuse.

 

[Stevethemeat]

You won’t like this but the cheapest way and quickest way would be to give him an incentive if he got no money he can fight you through the court you get a bill for 10 grand he get away cheep
Offer to pay his deposit and first months rent on a new property might cost you 2 grand but it will be the least cost route and you get your house back a lot quicker I know it sounds absurd but if you want a quick solution
That’s it I’m afraid all other routes take time dnd money lots of it [emoji16]

 

[som farmer]

There is a little house near here, which I am certain is tenanted, over the last few years I have seen parked on its very small front garden a succession of very expensive cars, including top end Range Rovers , an F type and a couple of Porsches. Last week was a very battered Corsa. How much some people have chucked away on one up-manship in the last few years is beyond belief.
On the flip side of the coin, a friend who installs swimming pools says he has never been so busy, with people who have spent 10’s of thousands on foreign holidays suddenly finding cash in their pockets. He and his staff have over 2 years work and they are now regularly working all weekends

little jobbing builder round here, turning work down all the time, working flat out already.

local gazette had an article 2 years back, for any tenant facing eviction/notice, contact the council, and they would 'advise' and pay the legal costs of being taken to court. Apparently it was cheaper for the council to do that, than pay for 'emergency' accommodation. That just takes the p155. Just as changing paying housing benefit direct to tenants, rather than direct to landlords, no need to guess where some of that went.

 

[Exfarmer]

Shame. Older folks with property could earn a crust in retirement by renting out to younger folks who can't get on the ladder. Win win. As with all good things, letting property has been ruined by abuse.

Yes but on the other hand all these folk buying property for an income in retirement has taken 4 million houses off the market for first time buyers to get inoto the market.
Although I am the owner of a ( was ) tenanted property I believe it has had a drastically bad effect on the UK housing market, depriving millions of youngsters the dream of their own home.
We became owners of our property by accident and now it is empty we are selling it as soon as we can.

 

[Sid]

Deposits are nearly impossible to keep at the end of a tenancy now.

Only ever managed to keep it when oil tank is below being brim full. And then you don't want a big tank!


You can't stipulate that carpets have to be cleaned if you have pets as that is discrimination.

I heard of one tenant taking all the light bulbs.
WTF is wrong with people?

 

[Exfarmer]

little jobbing builder round here, turning work down all the time, working flat out already.

We had exactly that last week with a chap doing a little stub wall , he said he has never been so busy, and acrtually was working all day Sunday!

 

[Exfarmer]

Deposits are nearly impossible to keep at the end of a tenancy now.

Only ever managed to keep it when oil tank is below being brim full. And then you don't want a big tank!


You can't stipulate that carpets have to be cleaned if you have pets as that is discrimination.

I heard of one tenant taking all the light bulbs.
WTF is wrong with people?

I moved into a farmhouse which had been tenanted 30 years ago and they took not just the bulbs but the fittings, switches, sockets and door handles
Did not do them any good as we refused to pay the in going

 

[glasshouse]

I moved into a farmhouse which had been tenanted 30 years ago and they took not just the bulbs but the fittings, switches, sockets and door handles
Did not do them any good as we refused to pay the in going

The tenant probably paid for those fittings

 

[glasshouse]

Yes but on the other hand all these folk buying property for an income in retirement has taken 4 million houses off the market for first time buyers to get inoto the market.
Although I am the owner of a ( was ) tenanted property I believe it has had a drastically bad effect on the UK housing market, depriving millions of youngsters the dream of their own home.
We became owners of our property by accident and now it is empty we are selling it as soon as we can.

Exactly right
Some people just cant see the big picture.
Moron Brown raided the pensions and forced even more people into landlordism