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Yes and people here already commenting on the heat!!!, its only mid October, ffs!!!dry warm and sunny here no slugs either
Yes and people here already commenting on the heat!!!, its only mid October, ffs!!!dry warm and sunny here no slugs either
This. With all due respect to the āmore experiencedā members on here; no, no you havenāt seen all this before. Met office records are being broken at an alarming rate; not just in the last 45 years as above but we are hearing the wettest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN; the driest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGANā¦ and all in the last 5-10 years. So unless you oldies are older than the pencil, just pipe down!soon be the wettest october in the last 45 years higher than 2019
Yes, , 2000 odd years ago ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦ā¦.and for long before that, the planet was coming out of an ice age although the biblical stories did take part on a warmer part of the planet than up here but climate change was happening nonethelessDid they have climate change in biblical times as well?
It's always like this on or before the clocks change!Itās normal backend weather for the ukā¦.whatās the drama ?!
did you get a wee run on the bike?Rained last night on Vale of York, not much today and during daylight you hardly needed a coat on, it was just mizzle in the wind
Lads in next village were flat out lifting spuds & carting tatie trailers all day, so wasnāt wet enough to stop the potato harvesting where we were situated
Very weird weather
What are we going to do about I then? If its man made global warming and these are the effects we need to immediately ban air travel, ration food and fuel, basically go back to a circa 1900 existence, I can't see that happening as no one is prepared to do without, so mankind is phucked, the planet doesn't care and will carry on without us.This. With all due respect to the āmore experiencedā members on here; no, no you havenāt seen all this before. Met office records are being broken at an alarming rate; not just in the last 45 years as above but we are hearing the wettest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN; the driest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGANā¦ and all in the last 5-10 years. So unless you oldies are older than the pencil, just pipe down!
I think this is a major issue. If the existing infrastructure is not maintained then we are in for a bad time, climate change or not.Very "easy" to blame all this extreme weather on climate change, i think that the real reason is the population growth, in the the UK, but in the whole world, experts please correct me, but hasnt the worlds population doubled in 50 odd years? On a local level, all house, roads, commercial mega industrial buildings, must have a large effect on "run off" when it does rain hard? That and the loss in the countryside, of "agricultural" workers? Here locally farms that now dont exist? all had farm workers, who had to be found work every day, and winter, autumn time many were employed either hedge cutting or ditiching? Now as you drive round the few "country" type roads left the ditches have long been abandoned so the water just flows down the road? The "engineered" drainage systems that our for fathers put in and managed for hundreds of years have been "abandoned" or neglected or what?
Very "easy" to blame all this extreme weather on climate change, i think that the real reason is the population growth, in the the UK, but in the whole world, experts please correct me, but hasnt the worlds population doubled in 50 odd years? On a local level, all house, roads, commercial mega industrial buildings, must have a large effect on "run off" when it does rain hard? That and the loss in the countryside, of "agricultural" workers? Here locally farms that now dont exist? all had farm workers, who had to be found work every day, and winter, autumn time many were employed either hedge cutting or ditiching? Now as you drive round the few "country" type roads left the ditches have long been abandoned so the water just flows down the road? The "engineered" drainage systems that our for fathers put in and managed for hundreds of years have been "abandoned" or neglected or what?
so much of the infrastructure is massively outdated and badly maintained. I used to do a bit of relief driving on gulley wagon/drain jetter for a firm, I was out the night of storm desmond 2015 racing round different reports of flooding trying to clear grids and blockages etc and then again in the following days. My time on then wagons did show how much damage there is to existing drainage infrastructure. The amount of bog roll and grey water in some roadside drains where obviously people have added toilets etc to drains instead of sewers. In one 50 yard stretch that flooded every time it rained there was a gulley top that was the highest point on the rd, bt duct through the drain and the main problem all boiled out where the gas pipe went through the drain. Its probably still like that years later.I think this is a major issue. If the existing infrastructure is not maintained then we are in for a bad time, climate change or not.
It is terrible that none of the roadside drains are maintained, I went out yesterday before things got really bad and pointed out all the blocked drains and unmaintained ditches to my missus (much to her excitement ). In one spot there was a big puddle developing and I said there is a gridhole under there that just needs clearing to stop that. 6 hours later and the houses nearby are flooded, no doubt there will be someone out this week clearing the gridholes. This is literally on rinse and repeat every 12-18 months around here.
Some of the floods were going to happen here anyway, we had 60mm in 24 hours on wet ground but a fair few would be easily prevented just by maintaining existing drainage systems.
As for the houses on Mill Close that flood every 12 months and have done since they were built 10 years ago, well there is a clue in the name on that one.
Are the pumps keeping up on the lowest ground?It is now the wettest october and we are only 2/3 though it 10 days to go
so much of the infrastructure is massively outdated and badly maintained. I used to do a bit of relief driving on gulley wagon/drain jetter for a firm, I was out the night of storm desmond 2015 racing round different reports of flooding trying to clear grids and blockages etc and then again in the following days. My time on then wagons did show how much damage there is to existing drainage infrastructure. The amount of bog roll and grey water in some roadside drains where obviously people have added toilets etc to drains instead of sewers. In one 50 yard stretch that flooded every time it rained there was a gulley top that was the highest point on the rd, bt duct through the drain and the main problem all boiled out where the gas pipe went through the drain. Its probably still like that years later.
A common problem was tree roots clogging the drains 100 yr old drains with big mature trees ontop and all around them, we spent days with root cutters but i bet there the same again now, nobody would even suggest that the trees need to come down and a new pipe laid. The investment needed to sort the few problems i saw properly would be unreal so they get a quick bodge or just left to get worse and worse.
Record October rain fall ! depends where you are, obviously.This. With all due respect to the āmore experiencedā members on here; no, no you havenāt seen all this before. Met office records are being broken at an alarming rate; not just in the last 45 years as above but we are hearing the wettest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN; the driest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGANā¦ and all in the last 5-10 years. So unless you oldies are older than the pencil, just pipe down!
Framlingham, SuffolkWhere is that?
The council have pretty much cut out essential services to ābalanceā the books.I used to do a bit of relief driving on gulley wagon/drain jetter for a firm, I was out the night of storm desmond 2015 racing round different reports of flooding trying to clear grids and blockages etc and then again in the following days.
10 years ago it was their job, now it is all "not my job".10 years ago you could call the foreman directly and heād do everything to help the community, whereas now Customer Services clearly couldnāt give a sh!t.