Biblical weather

[FonterraFarmer]

dry warm and sunny here no slugs either

Yes and people here already commenting on the heat!!!, its only mid October, ffs!!!

 

[alomy75]

soon be the wettest october in the last 45 years higher than 2019

This. With all due respect to the ‘more experienced’ members on here; no, no you haven’t seen all this before. Met office records are being broken at an alarming rate; not just in the last 45 years as above but we are hearing the wettest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN; the driest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN… and all in the last 5-10 years. So unless you oldies are older than the pencil, just pipe down!

 

[Tarw Coch]

Did they have climate change in biblical times as well?

Yes, , 2000 odd years ago …………….and for long before that, the planet was coming out of an ice age although the biblical stories did take part on a warmer part of the planet than up here but climate change was happening nonetheless

 

[jondear]

We had 83 mm in one morning a while back in late September .No named storm so no hype!

 

[jondear]

It’s normal backend weather for the uk….what’s the drama ?!

It's always like this on or before the clocks change!

 

[Exfarmer]

In my lifetime I have twice emptied over 100mm from a rain gauge. Sadly no longer have my records but the first was in summer 1981, I remember it well as
I had seeded a lawn round my new built house, showers were forecast. We ended up wqith grass everywhere except where seeded.
The second time was a deluge experienced in South Norfolk I am unsure of the year probably mid 1990s. I had a desperate call from a neighbour to see if I could do anything about water running off a field into his house.
went round to find he had recently extended by filling in a very large ditch and building over. My comment to demolish the extension was apparently not helpful.
my father thought they had a similar amount one year in th early 60’s but it was not recorded properly
such amounts in 24 hours are reckoned by the Met office to be once in a hundred year events.
the problems much of East Anglia are suffering presently are mainly down to lack of maintenance and lack of foresight in planning by builders, developers, planners, politicians but mainly those tasked with ensuring this does not happen, the EA

 

[2wheels]

Rained last night on Vale of York, not much today and during daylight you hardly needed a coat on, it was just mizzle in the wind
Lads in next village were flat out lifting spuds & carting tatie trailers all day, so wasn’t wet enough to stop the potato harvesting where we were situated
Very weird weather

did you get a wee run on the bike?

 

[JP1]

 

[bluebell]

Very "easy" to blame all this extreme weather on climate change, i think that the real reason is the population growth, in the the UK, but in the whole world, experts please correct me, but hasnt the worlds population doubled in 50 odd years? On a local level, all house, roads, commercial mega industrial buildings, must have a large effect on "run off" when it does rain hard? That and the loss in the countryside, of "agricultural" workers? Here locally farms that now dont exist? all had farm workers, who had to be found work every day, and winter, autumn time many were employed either hedge cutting or ditiching? Now as you drive round the few "country" type roads left the ditches have long been abandoned so the water just flows down the road? The "engineered" drainage systems that our for fathers put in and managed for hundreds of years have been "abandoned" or neglected or what?

 

[Wombat]

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Where is that?

 

[stroller]

This. With all due respect to the ‘more experienced’ members on here; no, no you haven’t seen all this before. Met office records are being broken at an alarming rate; not just in the last 45 years as above but we are hearing the wettest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN; the driest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN… and all in the last 5-10 years. So unless you oldies are older than the pencil, just pipe down!

What are we going to do about I then? If its man made global warming and these are the effects we need to immediately ban air travel, ration food and fuel, basically go back to a circa 1900 existence, I can't see that happening as no one is prepared to do without, so mankind is phucked, the planet doesn't care and will carry on without us.

 

[Longlowdog]

@stroller not all mankind is bothered. I live at 200m and on a lump above most of around me. If say 20% of the UK were to become unlivable and 40% of the population forced to look for higher ground then property would surely appreciate on the high ground. I'm fed up with neutral equity in my place, this could be a blessing! Furthermore I've always had a hankering for a small boat and the wife couldn't complain if I needed one to go bartering with neighbours for food. I also have a couple of shippens I could convert (at a price) to home carefully vetted residents seeking to escape the former lowlands.

 

[Kidds]

Very "easy" to blame all this extreme weather on climate change, i think that the real reason is the population growth, in the the UK, but in the whole world, experts please correct me, but hasnt the worlds population doubled in 50 odd years? On a local level, all house, roads, commercial mega industrial buildings, must have a large effect on "run off" when it does rain hard? That and the loss in the countryside, of "agricultural" workers? Here locally farms that now dont exist? all had farm workers, who had to be found work every day, and winter, autumn time many were employed either hedge cutting or ditiching? Now as you drive round the few "country" type roads left the ditches have long been abandoned so the water just flows down the road? The "engineered" drainage systems that our for fathers put in and managed for hundreds of years have been "abandoned" or neglected or what?

I think this is a major issue. If the existing infrastructure is not maintained then we are in for a bad time, climate change or not.
It is terrible that none of the roadside drains are maintained, I went out yesterday before things got really bad and pointed out all the blocked drains and unmaintained ditches to my missus (much to her excitement ). In one spot there was a big puddle developing and I said there is a gridhole under there that just needs clearing to stop that. 6 hours later and the houses nearby are flooded, no doubt there will be someone out this week clearing the gridholes. This is literally on rinse and repeat every 12-18 months around here.

Some of the floods were going to happen here anyway, we had 60mm in 24 hours on wet ground but a fair few would be easily prevented just by maintaining existing drainage systems.
As for the houses on Mill Close that flood every 12 months and have done since they were built 10 years ago, well there is a clue in the name on that one.

 

[mx110]

Very "easy" to blame all this extreme weather on climate change, i think that the real reason is the population growth, in the the UK, but in the whole world, experts please correct me, but hasnt the worlds population doubled in 50 odd years? On a local level, all house, roads, commercial mega industrial buildings, must have a large effect on "run off" when it does rain hard? That and the loss in the countryside, of "agricultural" workers? Here locally farms that now dont exist? all had farm workers, who had to be found work every day, and winter, autumn time many were employed either hedge cutting or ditiching? Now as you drive round the few "country" type roads left the ditches have long been abandoned so the water just flows down the road? The "engineered" drainage systems that our for fathers put in and managed for hundreds of years have been "abandoned" or neglected or what?

I think this is a major issue. If the existing infrastructure is not maintained then we are in for a bad time, climate change or not.
It is terrible that none of the roadside drains are maintained, I went out yesterday before things got really bad and pointed out all the blocked drains and unmaintained ditches to my missus (much to her excitement ). In one spot there was a big puddle developing and I said there is a gridhole under there that just needs clearing to stop that. 6 hours later and the houses nearby are flooded, no doubt there will be someone out this week clearing the gridholes. This is literally on rinse and repeat every 12-18 months around here.

Some of the floods were going to happen here anyway, we had 60mm in 24 hours on wet ground but a fair few would be easily prevented just by maintaining existing drainage systems.
As for the houses on Mill Close that flood every 12 months and have done since they were built 10 years ago, well there is a clue in the name on that one.

so much of the infrastructure is massively outdated and badly maintained. I used to do a bit of relief driving on gulley wagon/drain jetter for a firm, I was out the night of storm desmond 2015 racing round different reports of flooding trying to clear grids and blockages etc and then again in the following days. My time on then wagons did show how much damage there is to existing drainage infrastructure. The amount of bog roll and grey water in some roadside drains where obviously people have added toilets etc to drains instead of sewers. In one 50 yard stretch that flooded every time it rained there was a gulley top that was the highest point on the rd, bt duct through the drain and the main problem all boiled out where the gas pipe went through the drain. Its probably still like that years later.
A common problem was tree roots clogging the drains 100 yr old drains with big mature trees ontop and all around them, we spent days with root cutters but i bet there the same again now, nobody would even suggest that the trees need to come down and a new pipe laid. The investment needed to sort the few problems i saw properly would be unreal so they get a quick bodge or just left to get worse and worse.

 

[Devil's advocate]

It is now the wettest october and we are only 2/3 though it 10 days to go

Are the pumps keeping up on the lowest ground?

 

[Steevo]

so much of the infrastructure is massively outdated and badly maintained. I used to do a bit of relief driving on gulley wagon/drain jetter for a firm, I was out the night of storm desmond 2015 racing round different reports of flooding trying to clear grids and blockages etc and then again in the following days. My time on then wagons did show how much damage there is to existing drainage infrastructure. The amount of bog roll and grey water in some roadside drains where obviously people have added toilets etc to drains instead of sewers. In one 50 yard stretch that flooded every time it rained there was a gulley top that was the highest point on the rd, bt duct through the drain and the main problem all boiled out where the gas pipe went through the drain. Its probably still like that years later.
A common problem was tree roots clogging the drains 100 yr old drains with big mature trees ontop and all around them, we spent days with root cutters but i bet there the same again now, nobody would even suggest that the trees need to come down and a new pipe laid. The investment needed to sort the few problems i saw properly would be unreal so they get a quick bodge or just left to get worse and worse.

It’s mad that humans have made jobs so unaffordable that they don’t get done….to our own detriment.

Crazy when you think about it like that.

 

[Fish]

This. With all due respect to the ‘more experienced’ members on here; no, no you haven’t seen all this before. Met office records are being broken at an alarming rate; not just in the last 45 years as above but we are hearing the wettest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN; the driest whatever month SINCE RECORDS BEGAN… and all in the last 5-10 years. So unless you oldies are older than the pencil, just pipe down!

Record October rain fall ! depends where you are, obviously.
so far on this patch of North Yorkshire, October has given us 53mm, which is still short of average.
October 13-145mm
October-19-127mm
In both 2000 and 2001 the total October rainfall was well north of 100mm, and that’s just four years.

 

[Stewie]

Where is that?

Framlingham, Suffolk

 

[PSQ]

I used to do a bit of relief driving on gulley wagon/drain jetter for a firm, I was out the night of storm desmond 2015 racing round different reports of flooding trying to clear grids and blockages etc and then again in the following days.

The council have pretty much cut out essential services to ‘balance’ the books.
I first requested the gulley tanker for “the bit that always floods” last spring, when the driver was in the village, but he didn’t have time because they finish at 12 on a Friday…
After the Freelander aquaplaned into the building yesterday, I called the number for the local roads department depot to see if the gulley wagon was available to clear the 3 blocked chambers. But now you have to go through a central number for the Council “HQ” 30 miles away, so after 15 minutes of being passed around ‘customer services’ took the request and said they would give it “high priority”.
Imagine my delight at seeing the council had indeed been to the 30cm x 50m flood on the road, to put up a pair of ‘flood’ signs, beyond which was a hydrolocked Honda Civic

10 years ago you could call the foreman directly and he’d do everything to help the community, whereas now Customer Services clearly couldn’t give a sh!t.

 

[Kidds]

10 years ago you could call the foreman directly and he’d do everything to help the community, whereas now Customer Services clearly couldn’t give a sh!t.

10 years ago it was their job, now it is all "not my job".
(I suspect it was more than 10 years ago)