Bitersaltz vs liquid Magnesium ?

[Farmer Fin]

I was under the impression that adding it with nitrate increases the uptake. Ibc of 9% mag plus nitrate was 68p

 

[Brisel]

I was under the impression that adding it with nitrate increases the uptake. Ibc of 9% mag plus nitrate was 68p

Thank you. I switched to nitrate from sulphate a while ago but I can't remember why! I paid something similar for an IBC of Optemag.

 

[robbie]

Bittersaltz is sulphate, not nitrate. You've got to compare like with like. I used to use nitrate as I had applied plenty of sulphur other ways.

I know that's why my comparison was for both so3 products, I asked about it being nitrate because that would have made it very very well priced.

Anyone wanting mg nitrate could just use mg so3 and add a few Lt/ha liquid N or add blue.

 

[Clive]

I was under the impression that adding it with nitrate increases the uptake. Ibc of 9% mag plus nitrate was 68p

the Farmdeals product is 9% magnesium nitrate and its £46p /L on the group buy thats running this week, think i’m going to order a couple of IBC’s ..... if nothing else the sprayer driver will thank me !

 

[Clive]

I know that's why my comparison was for both so3 products, I asked about it being nitrate because that would have made it very very well priced.

Anyone wanting mg nitrate could just use mg so3 and add a few Lt/ha liquid N or add blue.

i think the offer is nitrate - its 46p/ L this week group buy

Also has some sulphur in it - Magnesium 9%MgO 18%S03 [7.2% S]

 

[Andrew K]

i think the offer is nitrate - its 46p/ L this week group buy

Also has some sulphur in it - Magnesium 9%MgO 18%S03 [7.2% S]

Do you use Fibrophos or similar Clive. I think there is Magnesium in that?

 

[Farmer Fin]

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the Farmdeals product is 9% magnesium nitrate and its £46p /L on the group buy thats running this week, think i’m going to order a couple of IBC’s ..... if nothing else the sprayer driver will thank me !

Are you sure as normally they also state N content as well? Most of them are mag oxide anyway with added nitrate. If that price is correct that is cracking as 68p was the best I could get.

 

[robbie]

I always thought it was either or, as it states sulphate I would assume that's what it is if it was nitrate it would say so. I haven't come across a product that's mg +so3+nitrate.

I'm registered for the buying group thingy how do I see it on there.

 

[Farmer Fin]

I always thought it was either or, as it states sulphate I would assume that's what it is if it was nitrate it would say so. I haven't come across a product that's mg +so3+nitrate.

I'm registered for the buying group thingy how do I see it on there.

I saw it under micronutrients, it doesn’t state its content beyond 9%Mag.

i would have though mag chloride would have been a cheep enough way of doing it as it’s quite soluble, not sure why not used on plants.

 

[B'o'B]

the Farmdeals product is 9% magnesium nitrate and its £46p /L on the group buy thats running this week, think i’m going to order a couple of IBC’s ..... if nothing else the sprayer driver will thank me !

Are you really sure it's Mg nitrate. It looks like the same product (has the same analysis) as the one on Marketplace which is defiantly Mg Sulphate - Section 3.1 of the MSDS

 

[Clive]

Are you really sure it's Mg nitrate. It looks like the same product (has the same analysis) as the one on Marketplace which is defiantly Mg Sulphate - Section 3.1 of the MSDS View attachment 954280

i will check today, i could be wrong

 

[Clive]

I always thought it was either or, as it states sulphate I would assume that's what it is if it was nitrate it would say so. I haven't come across a product that's mg +so3+nitrate.

I'm registered for the buying group thingy how do I see it on there.

you only see fuel on the app at the moment, that will be fixed soon however

need to login via a web browser to see other group buys

go to www.farmdeals.ag and look there



Really good Teb / Amistar group buy coming up next week im told as first ag chemical via the group

 

[Clive]

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Are you sure as normally they also state N content as well? Most of them are mag oxide anyway with added nitrate. If that price is correct that is cracking as 68p was the best I could get.

actually i guess it must be Magnesium Sulphate with the 7.5% So3 content ?

i was always led to believe that trace elements were best applied in the sulphate form ? how how would to nitrate help magnesium uptake or are you just wanting the additional foliar nitrogen ?

 

[B'o'B]

actually i guess it must be Magnesium Sulphate with the 7.5% So3 content ?

i was always led to believe that trace elements were best applied in the sulphate form ? how how would to nitrate help magnesium uptake or are you just wanting the additional foliar nitrogen ?

I believe the nitrate helps move the other nutrients into the leaf.

In my case I will already be applying an ample sufficiency of sulphur.

 

[Farmer Fin]

actually i guess it must be Magnesium Sulphate with the 7.5% So3 content ?

i was always led to believe that trace elements were best applied in the sulphate form ? how how would to nitrate help magnesium uptake or are you just wanting the additional foliar nitrogen ?

Yep it will be mag sulphate then. As Bob says nitrate must as a cofactor for uptake at least that’s the theory. I’m also in the position that we have plenty of sulphur already with the liquid fert we use.

 

[Daniel]

Not necessarily. IBCs tend to be made as cheaply as possible, so I doubt there will be many additives in the solution. I haven't read the label for the Farm Deals product, so I'm guessing here.

 

[Clive]

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this magnesium group buy is from the same supplier as the manganese was - Badger crop nutrition

I believe they source a lot of their ingredients from battery recycling which is a good story to tell our customers and improve our environmental reputations!

 

[Farmer Fin]

this magnesium group buy is from the same supplier as the manganese was - Badger crop nutrition

I believe they source a lot of their ingredients from battery recycling which is a good story to tell our customers and improve our environmental reputations!

Are they from the travelling community ?

 

[Clive]

Are they from the travelling community ?

 

[teslacoils]

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