Bloom dip

[Bury the Trash]

probbly best to stick one colour tho..........

 

[Old Tip]

So this is no different to ugly women troweling on make up

It's called taking a pride in your stock and showing it off to the best of your ability. You wouldn't put a tractor in a sale covered in shite with dull paint work and a windscreen you couldn't see through and expect top dollar would you

 

[sam1]

Exactly that

 

[multi power]

It's called taking a pride in your stock and showing it off to the best of your ability. You wouldn't put a tractor in a sale covered in shite with dull paint work and a windscreen you couldn't see through and expect top dollar would you

Ok I see your point, I like stock to be looking well, nice shiney coat, no horns or stumps etc, not matted in muck from lack of bedding , but the likes of clipping like show cows would never ever appeal to me

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Summed it up with the ugly women putting on the make up, then the average looking ones are caught up by them, so then they need to do it to maintain the fact they are better, but then the ones good looking in the first place have been caught up by the middling ones so they need to do it to maintain being at the top and sheep no different!! My mules im proud of, always go for tight skinned lambs that I believe is essential in a mule, but id confidently say more than half of folks would not think mine as good as lesser sheep with a dose of purl and colour, until a year later when they have sold lambs!! So most do it at extra expense. But as @Old Tip says, it is nice to present stock at its maximum level If you take care and pride in what you do

 

[andybk]

not ewes i know , but i hate seeing those yellow stained rams , Purl will tighten the wool (phenol) dont mind that as much

 

[Bones]

If you have no dip product, use a dash of Jess fluid, helps the die to stick .

 

[RMSLLOYD]

If you have no dip product, use a dash of Jess fluid, helps the die to stick .

Thanks. Was planning on getting them dipped with the proper stuff at the same time

 

[RMSLLOYD]

not ewes i know , but i hate seeing those yellow stained rams , Purl will tighten the wool (phenol) dont mind that as much

That's what I want more than anything. Was going to dress the head and neck and thought that tightening the wool after that would top the job off

 

[andybk]

If you have no dip product, use a dash of Jess fluid, helps the die to stick .

not since they changed the formula , taken most if not all the phenol out ,its watery sh1t now , scour the carboots for old cans is only option ,

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

Of course the ones that have been Bloom dipped have more lambs and lamb on their own out in the field!!

What colour gives the lambs the fastest growth rate and are heaviest at weaning?

It is a ridiculously out dated practice that does nothing for the sheep industry and in my view should be banned altogether.
It is no coincidence that there is a massive increase in people switching from Mules to Lleyn and Romney where they have flocks that are self replacing and are able to improve their flock without the need to make them an artificial colour.

I have seen Tups turned yellow at sales. I presume this is to disguise the amount of cabbages they have eaten!

If Bloom dip was banned it would save the industry thousands and everyone would be on a level playing field.
Do they still tie bits of red wool into the necks of sheep as well?

 

[andybk]

Ore able to improve their flock without the need to make them an artificial colour.

I have seen Tups turned yellow at sales. I presume this is to disguise the amount of cabbages they have eaten!

If Bloom dip was banned it would save the industry thousands and everyone would be on a level playing field.
Do they still tie bits of red wool into the necks of sheep as well?

no its to hide the fact many have been indoors , and the wool washed out because it got grubby , easy to spot with a char as they will have soft colourless light pink heads with no fly scarring , less easy to spot with wooly headed breeds ,

 

[Y Fan Wen]

Am I right in how I'm reading this that sheep are being dipped or sprayed just to make them look the right colour?

Yes, mad isn't it. Especially as our northern friends seem hooked on it and they are supposed to be hard headed business men.
If you offered them at a Welsh sale you would probably get laughed at.

 

[andybk]

Yes, mad isn't it. Especially as our northern friends seem hooked on it and they are supposed to be hard headed business men.
If you offered them at a Welsh sale you would probably get laughed at.

Builth Ram sale ?

 

[Old Tip]

You try selling un trimmed non coloured lambs or shearlings at the sales and you will be at least a tenner a head down on the rest for the same sheep. Lot of these lambs come off fairly poor going and can look dull in their wool (washed out poor doers). Chuck them through some pearl dip with a bit of colour and they look different animals. We dont all farm in the land of milk and honey so have to make the most of what we've got.
Yes @Frank-the-Wool it probably devalues the wool but if I can get ten pound a head more for the cost of a few pence I can't see what I'm doing wrong. Very rare I disagree with you but the laws of economics are easy to see

OT

 

[Bones]

Don't forget the cooking oil on there faces ,,,,,,, makes them water proof.

 

[Frank-the-Wool]

You try selling un trimmed non coloured lambs or shearlings at the sales and you will be at least a tenner a head down on the rest for the same sheep. Lot of these lambs come off fairly poor going and can look dull in their wool (washed out poor doers). Chuck them through some pearl dip with a bit of colour and they look different animals. We dont all farm in the land of milk and honey so have to make the most of what we've got.
Yes @Frank-the-Wool it probably devalues the wool but if I can get ten pound a head more for the cost of a few pence I can't see what I'm doing wrong. Very rare I disagree with you but the laws of economics are easy to see

OT

Nothing to do with the wool as fortunately most of the newer bloom dips are scourable. I find the whole process of colouring sheep outdated and unnecessary.
It may only cost a few pence a sheep to do it in chemical but I presume it all takes time as well.

I fear that as the commercial realities become more acute these archaic practices will be questioned.
The breeders of Mules need to wake up and see what is happening as more and more flocks are being switched to self replacing breeds.
Through the Borders there are increasing numbers of Cheviot flocks being crossed with Romney's as well as an increasing number of pure Romney flocks.
This is also happening in England and Wales with flocks of Lleyns and Romney replacing Mules.

The breed societies should I believe ban all colouring then it would be a level playing field for all.

 

[Lovegoodstock]

Without doubt your questioning the worth of colouring is valid, but most breeding sales have the requirement of sheep needing to have been treated for scab/fly or lice prevention, so those that plunge dip, time is not going to be any more. Whilst it is daft, I do love stock looking to their full potential and rightly or wrongly I believe its a joy to see the passion, work and success done to present the mules as most are at these sales. In reality its the buyers fuelling the requirement to do this process, not the sellers, as @Old Tip pointed out, these sheep attract a premium price, that is down to the buyers solely?

 

[TL100]

Nothing to do with the wool as fortunately most of the newer bloom dips are scourable. I find the whole process of colouring sheep outdated and unnecessary.
It may only cost a few pence a sheep to do it in chemical but I presume it all takes time as well.

I fear that as the commercial realities become more acute these archaic practices will be questioned.
The breeders of Mules need to wake up and see what is happening as more and more flocks are being switched to self replacing breeds.
Through the Borders there are increasing numbers of Cheviot flocks being crossed with Romney's as well as an increasing number of pure Romney flocks.
This is also happening in England and Wales with flocks of Lleyns and Romney replacing Mules.

The breed societies should I believe ban all colouring then it would be a level playing field for all.

I don't understand your comment 'if colouring was banned it would be a level playing field for all'. If someone colours their sheep or not it won't influence my decision whether I buy Mules or Romneys/Lleyns or whatever.

If you want to promote your own breed or stock do it on their own merits not by knocking someone else's sheep.

 

[CharcoalWally]

It is no coincidence that there is a massive increase in people switching from Mules to Lleyn and Romney

If Bloom dip was banned it would save the industry thousands and everyone would be on a level playing field.

Eh???

If Lleyns and Romneys are so much in the ascendency, then why exactly do they need to be put on a level playing field?

Illogical Captain.......