Blue pallet law

[caveman]

The guy visiting the yard was prob just a freelance collector who makes a few quid repatriating chep pallets.
I would suggest that if no tenants have signed a chit for the chep pallets, then they have no problems.
If they have,as part of a delivery note, then they need a blue pallet for each one signed for.
Question.
If there is no machine on site to load the pallets onto a truck, how did they get unloaded in the first instance?

 

[Netherfield]

Chep man turned up in the yard one day, same story as above, 'sending a wagon on Monday', I said "you'll have to be early then, the wagon that left them is coming early doors with another load and taking these back with him".

After we'd both calmed down he explained the system. Anyway he came up with a plan that we could have what he called an 'holding account', that way we could have up to 20 pallets and not have to pay rental on them, worked out quite well , it meant we had blues to swap if anyone delivered on them. A few years later they sent a letter terminating the agreement, so we kept the blues inside out of sight after that.

 

[Exfarmer]

Surely the problem lays withe people who send these pallets out. It is nothing to do with the receiver who gets them s part of ordering goods. I have frequently received them in the past, but never a request to return them. In fact they will still have the pallet on their books so paying rent on them

 

[Pasty]

The point is being missed a little here. CHEP own the pallets legally, they are only asking for their items to be returned.

It could be viewed as using stolen goods, so maybe not a good idea to P155 them off unless you fancy a police raid and front page headlines in the local paper, for the sake of a few pallets.

That's a load of rubbish though isn't it? If I own 10000 Merc C classes and just send them out and park them wherever the 3rd party delivery guy leaves them, can I then go and chase them up and say they didn't care for them etc.etc. It's a load of rubbish. If you dump a blue pallet on my land I will use it or burn it. End of. Take me to court over it. Fukkking idiots.

 

[Pasty]

Is anyone going to be taken to court over 5,10, 20 or even 100 blue pallets? Not a chance. Tell them to get off your property. A good dog will help.

 

[bobk]

Surely if they claim to own them, you could charge them for storage? Or even prosecute them for leaving waste on your property. I always made a point of disposing of mine fairly quickly. The wood is fairly good and gives of plenty of heat although you do get blue flames initially.

You shouldn't burn the mothers ... xxx toxic

 

[Pasty]

You shouldn't burn the mothers ... xxx toxic

I don't any more although I do have a stove with an after burn grid thing which apparently destroys most of the toxic stuff. No idea. But in the past, needs must.

 

[Devil's advocate]

I'm shocked.

Blue pallets are indespensible in logistics & 20 years ago, I was told they cost £15 each. Look after them & even use them for sensible deliveries. But those collection drivers are well within their rights to recover the pallets. They carry bolt cutters & are legally allowed to use them, to recover the pallets.

At worst it is a very green thing to look after blue pallets, better than waste. They should never be wilfully damaged.

 

[Pasty]

I'm shocked.

Blue pallets are indespensible in logistics & 20 years ago, I was told they cost £15 each. Look after them & even use them for sensible deliveries. But those collection drivers are well within their rights to recover the pallets. They carry bolt cutters & are legally allowed to use them, to recover the pallets.

At worst it is a very green thing to look after blue pallets, better than waste. They should never be wilfully damaged.

What legal rights do they have to cut into a secure compound? Who gave them these legal rights and where are they enshrined in law?

 

[David.]

I dislike arrogance in any form, so I think the best way to handle Chep, TV Licensing, RSPCA, etc; unless they are accompanied by a policeman with a warrant, is with a polite but firm Foxtrot Oscar, as suggested by Ex-farmer.

 

[Courier]

Anyone remember the big ICI pallets which were specifically planed down with rounded edges so that 50 kg poly bags of Nitram didn’t snag - They had a deposit system in place £10 each. Each layer of 5 bags had a sticky layer applied to prevent sliding about. Thank goodness for mini-bulk bags!

 

[David.]

Anyone remember the big ICI pallets which were specifically planed down with rounded edges so that 50 kg poly bags of Nitram didn’t snag - They had a deposit system in place £10 each. Each layer of 5 bags had a sticky layer applied to prevent sliding about. Thank goodness for mini-bulk bags!

I'm sure plenty of us spent April with a tacky neck and shoulder.

 

[Exfarmer]

I'm shocked.

Blue pallets are indespensible in logistics & 20 years ago, I was told they cost £15 each. Look after them & even use them for sensible deliveries. But those collection drivers are well within their rights to recover the pallets. They carry bolt cutters & are legally allowed to use them, to recover the pallets.

At worst it is a very green thing to look after blue pallets, better than waste. They should never be wilfully damaged.

Any recovery agent using bolt cutters to release their pallets on private property would be breaking and entering.

 

[reboot]

I'm shocked.

Blue pallets are indespensible in logistics & 20 years ago, I was told they cost £15 each. Look after them & even use them for sensible deliveries. But those collection drivers are well within their rights to recover the pallets. They carry bolt cutters & are legally allowed to use them, to recover the pallets.

At worst it is a very green thing to look after blue pallets, better than waste. They should never be wilfully damaged.

If they legally break in to reclaim their property are they going to make the yard secure again when they leave? Supposing something gets stolen after they’ve broke in and left the yard unlocked?
If I kick a ball over a neighbors fence it does not give me the right to jump the fence and retrieve it does it?

 

[Pasty]

 

[Grassman]

They have no rights to enter private property to recover the pallets whatsoever. A court order would be required for that.

 

[Devil's advocate]

I dislike arrogance in any form, so I think the best way to handle Chep, TV Licensing, RSPCA, etc; unless they are accompanied by a policeman with a warrant, is with a polite but firm Foxtrot Oscar, as suggested by Ex-farmer.

I hate arrogance. Which is why I'm so appalled that some of you think it is ok to steal. As said those pallets are very expensive at least £15 each, hired out for less than a £1. It is just the right & decent thing to do just like if you saw someone drop a tenner. Would you pick it up & put it in your pocket or pick it up & return it to its rightful owner.

I've worked in logistics & always been told chep men had ballif type powers, to recover their property. Certainly have known them cut chains.

If people steal these pallets, the cost of transportation will increase & we will all pay more for goods in the shops.

 

[Pasty]

I hate arrogance. Which is why I'm so appalled that some of you think it is ok to steal. As said those pallets are very expensive at least £15 each, hired out for less than a £1. It is just the right & decent thing to do just like if you saw someone drop a tenner. Would you pick it up & put it in your pocket or pick it up & return it to its rightful owner.

I've worked in logistics & always been told chep men had ballif type powers, to recover their property. Certainly have known them cut chains.

If people steal these pallets, the cost of transportation will increase & we will all pay more for goods in the shops.

I've got at least 3 in my shed now. Who is paying me for storage? You can't have it both ways. Just because you legally own something it doesn't give you the right to dump it on other people's land and then turn up whenever and demand it back with bolt cutters. That's just fukkking stupid.

 

[David.]

I'm not advocating stealing in any way. If the Chep own the pallets that is fine and they need to circulate for the system to work, which I get.
A polite request for the return of stray pallets when identified is one thing, some jumped up oik standing in my yard telling me what they are or aren't going to do, or else, is quite another thing.
You respond to people based upon their attitude.

 

[Devil's advocate]

I'm not advocating stealing in any way. If the Chep own the pallets that is fine and they need to circulate for the system to work, which I get.
A polite request for the return of stray pallets when identified is one thing, some jumped up oik standing in my yard telling me what they are or aren't going to do, or else, is quite another thing.
You respond to people based upon their attitude.

Oh fair enougth.

I've found them polite. Bolt croppers only after warning.