Boris Is Toast

[Ducati899]

I agree it's a problem. Met an ex department worker on Sat morning and his words were 'For the first time in my life I have nobody to vote for'

I said the exact same yesterday,who is there to vote for

 

[Raider112]

But who do you replace him with?

A performing chimp would manage just as well.

 

[Hfd Cattle]

Jeremy Hunt is as safe a bet as anyone .

 

[stewart]

A performing chimp would manage just as well.

You’ve already got one of those as PM.

 

[Widgetone]

Boris's Peppa Pig performance at the CBI summed him up completely for me. Beyond belief.

Cant fault the man's survival record though, but no one has the appetite though do they?
Reckon he will have to quit before any hats are thrown in the ring

 

[Ashtree]

Why not take a leaf out of the Premiership book? It’s become the best league in the world, since the management and player pool was outsourced to the EU? Why, it’s a “world beating league”
It’s just a thought, ….

 

[DrWazzock]

Well I have to admit that if national agricultural policy is anything to go by, taking back control has been a hell of a let down. It could be so much better but the opportunity has been fudged up so badly it’s difficult to see how they could be making a worse job of it.

 

[Danllan]

Well I have to admit that if national agricultural policy is anything to go by, taking back control has been a hell of a let down. It could be so much better but the opportunity has been fudged up so badly it’s difficult to see how they could be making a worse job of it.

Can't say it doesn't matter, because it does, but... if Ag makes its case and publicly embarrasses Government, that government now can and will change.

 

[czechmate]

Can't say it doesn't matter, because it does, but... if Ag makes its case and publicly embarrasses Government, that government now can and will change.

You mean the bonfire of red tape is just around the corner?

 

[JP1]

You mean the bonfire of red tape is just around the corner?

I hand you Exhibit A
https://assets.publishing.service.g...file/1041528/2021_December_BordersOPModel.pdf

No Border Control Points mean virtually unfettered access for meat coming this way (ASF rife across much of Europe) yet we cannot export breeding cattle

 

[wanton dwarf]

Can't say it doesn't matter, because it does, but... if Ag makes its case and publicly embarrasses Government, that government now can and will change.

I have a question I'd like to see if you will answer it honestly.

UK, UN & IPCC Climate Change policy has helped created this Natural Gas crysis.

Just had my electric renewal contract through.

In Contract electric is going to rise 300% making the farm house only bill well over £4,000

Out of Contract electric STANDING CHARGE is £1.50 a day. That's about £547.00 a year if you use no electric. I know there are MILLIONS of people in the UK who are out of contract, many probably the most vulnerable in society.

What do you think is going to happen to the Conservative Party as a result ?

 

[Danllan]

I have a question I'd like to see if you will answer it honestly.

UK, UN & IPCC Climate Change policy has helped created this Natural Gas crysis.

Just had my electric renewal contract through.

In Contract electric is going to rise 300% making the farm house only bill well over £4,000

Out of Contract electric STANDING CHARGE is £1.50 a day. That's about £547.00 a year if you use no electric. I know there are MILLIONS of people in the UK who are out of contract, many probably the most vulnerable in society.

What do you think is going to happen to the Conservative Party as a result ?

To answer in what you would probably call an 'honest' way would mean having to accept the premise of the question, which I don't.

The overwhelming factors regarding the increase in gas price are that there has been less than a third of the usual wind power supplied recently, Germany is buying up far more than previously - to compensate for nuclear shut-down - and Russia and reduced supply. No argument that a 75% reduction in coal use over the last decade or so has made a difference as well.

Having set that straight, my guess is that the Conservatives will take a hit in the next election for several reasons, and one of those will be power prices. And they'll also get blamed for anything else that people can think of whether it's their fault or not, because they are in government.

But I think it unlikely that they'll lose power, the alternatives are worse and most people think that; a better question would be: what is going to happen to Boris Johnson as a result...?

Well, I know he is getting a lot of internal complaints, from both the Parliamentary and Constituency wings of the party. It isn't a particularly easy or helpful thing to bin a sitting PM, but it will be done if he doesn't change course on several matters, this is now fact. So that begs the questions of will he change or go and, if he goes, who comes in...?

 

[BrianV]

To answer in what you would probably call an 'honest' way would mean having to accept the premise of the question, which I don't.

The overwhelming factors regarding the increase in gas price are that there has been less than a third of the usual wind power supplied recently, Germany is buying up far more than previously - to compensate for nuclear shut-down - and Russia and reduced supply. No argument that a 75% reduction in coal use over the last decade or so has made a difference as well.

Having set that straight, my guess is that the Conservatives will take a hit in the next election for several reasons, and one of those will be power prices. And they'll also get blamed for anything else that people can think of whether it's their fault or not, because they are in government.

But I think it unlikely that they'll lose power, the alternatives are worse and most people think that; a better question would be: what is going to happen to Boris Johnson as a result...?

Well, I know he is getting a lot of internal complaints, from both the Parliamentary and Constituency wings of the party. It isn't a particularly easy or helpful thing to bin a sitting PM, but it will be done if he doesn't change course on several matters, this is now fact. So that begs the questions of will he change or go and, if he goes, who comes in...?

If he manages to hang on by his finger tips until May then the local elections will be his leaving moment, for the Tories to have any hope of surviving it would be better if he went sooner, Johnson is now for the Tories what Corbyn was for Labour, both ended up unelectable!

 

[Danllan]

If he manages to hang on by his finger tips until May then the local elections will be his leaving moment, for the Tories to have any hope of surviving it would be better if he went sooner, Johnson is now for the Tories what Corbyn was for Labour, both ended up unelectable!

I disagree, don't misunderstand me, I'll not shed any tears for him, and he's done what he was chosen to do - more or less. But Boris has a record of electoral success overall, and if he can make a couple of by-elections go his way - or the local ones in surprise areas - he may well stay.

And then there is the opposition... who knows what they are going to cock up between now and then...?

 

[Hindsight]

 

[Danllan]

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Sunak looks like a weird Asian version of Gordon Brown in that!

 

[wanton dwarf]

The overwhelming factors regarding the increase in gas price are that there has been less than a third of the usual wind power supplied recently, Germany is buying up far more than previously - to compensate for nuclear shut-down - and Russia and reduced supply. No argument that a 75% reduction in coal use over the last decade or so has made a difference as well.

You've missed out quite a few points.

1) IPCC, UN & UK policy has been to stop fossil fuel exploration. Some UK companies have stopped developing UK oil and gas fields. All promoted by UK government MPs and Media.
2) Two UK Nuclear power stations will be decomissioned soon.
3) UK gas heating alone is 2x the total Electricity supply.
4) Gas central heating is circa 80% to 90% efficient at the home.
5) Gas power stations generating electricity are circa 50% to 60% efficient. 8.5% of all Electricity energy is lost in the National Grid.
6) UK gas heating will be banned in 2025.
7) Conservatives privatised the UK Gas industry.
8) Conservatives destroyed UK backup Gas reserves.

To replace just UK heating from Gas to Electric will require around 3x to 4x more electric generation. So that's 4x to 5x todays current electricity supply.

On top of this further electric is required to replace fossil fuel transport.

Where is the Conservative Energy Policy to do this ? It's not surprising that costs are increasing because there is simply a lack of resources which has been created by UN, IPCC & the Conservative Party.

I fail to understand why you even mention Wind. Wind can stop or start moment to moment. Having backup power is just part of operating Wind Power. There is no such thing as being able to blame the "Lack of Wind" because the alternative should have been planned for at all times - which is what experts told the Conservatives for decades - which also is one of the reasons why Electricity costs are increasing because some of this energy is created using Fossil Fuel Generators in Container Parks.

Having set that straight

Nope.

But I think it unlikely that they'll lose power

Nope.

Energy Policy is just one department which has epically failed.

Immigration, Border Control, Foreign Policy, Afghanistan, Foreign Aid, Triple Locked Pensions, Northern Ireland abandoned by the Conservatives to the EU, Fishing abandoned to the EU .. of course for us Rewilding and Agricultural Policy.

The Conservatives are a complete mess.

 

[Hindsight]

Sunak looks like a weird Asian version of Gordon Brown in that!

You're spot on. Just had a look again - hadn't spotted it first time. I wonder if that is a Freudian comment / observation by Peter Brookes?

 

[arcobob]

Like it or not , I can see fracking starting up again but this time it will be far more widely accepted.. We are heading for a major energy shortage which cannot be filled by renewables.. Climate change lobbyists will have to accept the fact that long distance travel will be a thing of the past and home comforts will be severely screwed. I don`t think that our government is alone in making rash promises on climate change but they have certainly not given the impression that they have any idea about how provision will be made to make it work.
By backing wind and sun to provide our energy to the exclusion of all else and with no viable backup is insane in the extreme.

 

[Ashtree]

You've missed out quite a few points.

1) IPCC, UN & UK policy has been to stop fossil fuel exploration. Some UK companies have stopped developing UK oil and gas fields. All promoted by UK government MPs and Media.
2) Two UK Nuclear power stations will be decomissioned soon.
3) UK gas heating alone is 2x the total Electricity supply.
4) Gas central heating is circa 80% to 90% efficient at the home.
5) Gas power stations generating electricity are circa 50% to 60% efficient. 8.5% of all Electricity energy is lost in the National Grid.
6) UK gas heating will be banned in 2025.
7) Conservatives privatised the UK Gas industry.
8) Conservatives destroyed UK backup Gas reserves.

To replace just UK heating from Gas to Electric will require around 3x to 4x more electric generation. So that's 4x to 5x todays current electricity supply.

On top of this further electric is required to replace fossil fuel transport.

Where is the Conservative Energy Policy to do this ? It's not surprising that costs are increasing because there is simply a lack of resources which has been created by UN, IPCC & the Conservative Party.

I fail to understand why you even mention Wind. Wind can stop or start moment to moment. Having backup power is just part of operating Wind Power. There is no such thing as being able to blame the "Lack of Wind" because the alternative should have been planned for at all times - which is what experts told the Conservatives for decades - which also is one of the reasons why Electricity costs are increasing because some of this energy is created using Fossil Fuel Generators in Container Parks.



Nope.




Nope.

Energy Policy is just one department which has epically failed.

Immigration, Border Control, Foreign Policy, Afghanistan, Foreign Aid, Triple Locked Pensions, Northern Ireland abandoned by the Conservatives to the EU, Fishing abandoned to the EU .. of course for us Rewilding and Agricultural Policy.

The Conservatives are a complete mess.

May I commend you on this post. Nailed it. Wonders will never cease..…
Have a Kit Kat and a coffee this morning, whilst you pen a second sensible post, based on how to resolve the situation.