Could you see if you can get hold of 200 meters of twin wall 900mm or 1050mm culvert pipe and sealing rings please, it's around £15,000 /£20,000 order.
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- Thread starter caveman
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Could you see if you can get hold of 200 meters of twin wall 900mm or 1050mm culvert pipe and sealing rings please, it's around £15,000 /£20,000 order.
Tomr10
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I think the problem is alarm bells rang for the whole world on that day and stock was being bought from every where and sent to China. I know the company I work for sent every piece of ppe they could get there hands on fro uk and Europe to employees in china
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- East Sussex
exactly, I'm getting very annoyed with people blaming government for lack of ppe at the frontline. It's the NHS job to protect public health surely, there must be someone in the NHS following international diseases etc? They must get paid a fk load of money to be a top decision maker and to advise the gov what they need for an international pandemic coming our way no?
prepared To be shot down and mean no offence to those trying to save patients.
Tomr10
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It's a shame whe cant see what's really going on. There was talk a while ago that wales had secured thousands of test but then supplier went back on it.
In relation to ppe if each person used say 10 each a day in a staff of 100 that's a 1000 a day. Manufacturer is happy as he makes 1500 a day at 70% capacity as nobody runs full bore all the time.
Now we need 10 times more for just nhs also supply goes max capacity but cant meet nhs requirements let alone everybody else buys. Maths dont add up
Numbers are all made up what I am getting at is the capacity isn't there for near everybody in the world trying to buy what's available
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- Lincolnshire
I agree its easy to be wise with hindsight but when you are responsible for the biosecurity of a nation isn’t caution also a guiding principle?
Amazes me that there was a hell of fuss about neonics and they were banned without any scientific reason, but for this virus we saw the chaos in China and then just waited to see what happened here. Personally I think more could have been done to limit the spread. And it is beyond irresponsibility that tourists continued to go abroad well into the epidemic and are now squealing to be repatriated. Ironically the travel industry they were so desperate to save had been decimated anyway as the virus overtook the feeble measures to initially contain it. Complacency all round in my opinion. And still no official controls on movement in and out of the country. No regulated quarantine measures, nothing. I suspect there was never an intention to contain this virus , maybe still isn’t, but I am not entirely convinced we should have thrown the towel in on day one.
This order was 4 grand ,so probably
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- Lincolnshire
I agree with you. You would think every employee should have good quality possibly reusable PPE available at all times as a matter of course. We certainly have to have it available and sprayer operators or it would be a HSE matter. Not knocking the frontline staff but the contingency planning higher up does seem a bit lacking.
Could you let me have the details of the merchant please, we placed the order with Naylors in Yorkshire but they seem to have shut down.
Tomr10
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Before this when was the last time you went shopping and every other person was wearing a mask or gloves ? People that dont need them have bought them I also believe theres been a number of issues with stocks because people have been stealing them
December? The first reported death in China was well into January. In December I don't think they had admitted human to human transmission.
Please read through my previous posts and others 17/11/2019 is the date of the first confirmed case in China
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- Devon
Excuse me, but if there's points to be awarded, may I point out I clarified the situation a page or so previous to your post....
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Good chunk of the Chinese manufacturers who do Auto Elec parts etc have now turned to PPE... Changed to include or added medical to their names. Wake up most mornings to an email from a different one.
Hello!
Hope everything goes well!
Due to the special time, In order to help customers service with the current epidemic, we supply the following protective products with CE/FDA Certification.
Masks
1. Disposable Face Mask 3ply: high standard; CE Certificate; 53*41*31.8CM
2. Disposable Medical Mask 3ply: high standard; CE Certificate; 53*41*31.8CM
3. KN95 5ply Mask: KN95 standard; CE/FDA/FFP2 Certificates; 62*29.5*28.5CM
4. N95 4ply Mask 50g Melt Cloth: N95 standard; CE/FDA/FFP2 Certificates; 48*48*53CM
5. FFP3 Mask: FFP3 standard; CE/FDA/FFP3 Certificates; 33*31*18CM
6. KN95 Mask 5ply with valve: KN95 standard; CE/FDA/FFP2 Certificates; 46*46*40CM
Protective Glasses
1. Protective Glasses 01: ANSI Z87, FDA, CE, GB certificates; 54.5X44.5X58CM
2. Protective Mask: FDA, CE, EN166 certificates; 54.5X44.5X58CM
3. Protective Glasses 02: ROHS, EN149, CE, EN166 certificates; 70X36X42CM
Disposable Medical Protective Clothing
Materials：Spunlace non-woven composite TPU,non-porous and moisture-permeable structure.
Type: Aseptic
Size: S-5XL(160cm-195cm）
Non-contact Infrared Thermometer
1. Digital non-contact infrared thermometer
2. Powered by replaceable 9V batteries
3. Display resolution: 0.1 deg C, 0.1 deg F
4. LCD with Back Light
5. Visible laser targeting capability
6. Must display temperature in Celsius, switchable to Fahrenheit
7. Auto Power Shut Off
8. Display Rang: 32.0℃-42.0℃ 89.6°F-107.6°F
9. Accuracy: ±0.3℃(<35.5℃,>42.0℃)/±0.5°F(<95.9°F,>107.6°F)
Hello!
Hope everything goes well!
Due to the special time, In order to help customers service with the current epidemic, we supply the following protective products with CE/FDA Certification.
Masks
1. Disposable Face Mask 3ply: high standard; CE Certificate; 53*41*31.8CM
2. Disposable Medical Mask 3ply: high standard; CE Certificate; 53*41*31.8CM
3. KN95 5ply Mask: KN95 standard; CE/FDA/FFP2 Certificates; 62*29.5*28.5CM
4. N95 4ply Mask 50g Melt Cloth: N95 standard; CE/FDA/FFP2 Certificates; 48*48*53CM
5. FFP3 Mask: FFP3 standard; CE/FDA/FFP3 Certificates; 33*31*18CM
6. KN95 Mask 5ply with valve: KN95 standard; CE/FDA/FFP2 Certificates; 46*46*40CM
Protective Glasses
1. Protective Glasses 01: ANSI Z87, FDA, CE, GB certificates; 54.5X44.5X58CM
2. Protective Mask: FDA, CE, EN166 certificates; 54.5X44.5X58CM
3. Protective Glasses 02: ROHS, EN149, CE, EN166 certificates; 70X36X42CM
Disposable Medical Protective Clothing
Materials：Spunlace non-woven composite TPU,non-porous and moisture-permeable structure.
Type: Aseptic
Size: S-5XL(160cm-195cm）
Non-contact Infrared Thermometer
1. Digital non-contact infrared thermometer
2. Powered by replaceable 9V batteries
3. Display resolution: 0.1 deg C, 0.1 deg F
4. LCD with Back Light
5. Visible laser targeting capability
6. Must display temperature in Celsius, switchable to Fahrenheit
7. Auto Power Shut Off
8. Display Rang: 32.0℃-42.0℃ 89.6°F-107.6°F
9. Accuracy: ±0.3℃(<35.5℃,>42.0℃)/±0.5°F(<95.9°F,>107.6°F)
Tomr10
Member
Like to know how they got the accreditation so fast
Tomr10
Member
Dodgy that all the accreditation’s expired or blanked out
RushesToo
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- Location
- Fingringhoe
@milkloss No shooting down, but hopefully a reasoned argument.
You would expect extra stock to be held for Black Swan events and it should be standard contingency planning.
What has to be decided is where the stock is held. I would make the case that this is probably a central government task. I would not expect "small independent traders" [local health authorities] that are required to run at maximum efficiency to have many millions of pounds of emergency equipment in stock. They employ bean counters to stop this.
As this design is owned by the Government I would expect them to hold this on behalf of the local deliverers of efficient health care. They weren't holding this and they probably should have been. There is not much to envy the American healthcare system for but they do hold federally owned central stock of equipment for emergency planning. When a state declares an emergency [tornado or similar] then the central stocks are mobilised.
So yes - I do expect the Government to hold equipment to cover black swan events. I suspect they will before too long.
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- somerset
guv relies on the advice of the professional medics, you cannot expect anything different, they are not experts, and the news from china, didn't give to much cause for concern, ( they were economical with the truth ), and even now, the death rate from c19, is not excessive, in terms of %population. So, if your advisors told you that, and said not to worry, why should guv panic ? Like posted earlier, Europe sent ppe etc to china, to help them. And then, boom, it's this virus creeping everywhere, why hasn't the guv got this, or that, well, there are only so much stocked, we helped china out, and know the world is fighting for those same bits. And, this virus, has brought the world to a standstill, and is rapidly destroying economies, widespread lockdowns, of whole populations, and, if continues, martial law, will apply, as people start to ignore the rules, and food supplies run low. The only finger of blame, can be pointed at china, which with its peculiar eating habits, has started this virus, and several other viruses, and which, did not tell the full story, which has led to all this. But, to blame politicians here, is not warranted, blame the professionals who advised the guv, or the civil service, for gold plating requirements, if you want.
Honest john
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- Location
- Fenland
Don‘t feel alone, I am with you & voted for Boris.
Even Labour couldn’t have made a worse fist of it.
Let’s face it we were able to read up on it from China, Hong Kong, Korea back in January.
We only have the internet, government have GCHQ satellites diplomats etc.
I was screaming in February to stop the passenger planes.
We have to face it this tory government did no preparation until about mid March.
The real fault lays at the WHO‘s door who should have advised countries to stop flying. On February 3rd they said Trump was wrong to stop flights from China.
The truth is this virus was travelling the world in January & probably December so the genie was out.
Still had we stopped flights we may have been able to ride this virus without a damaging shut down.
We will never know now.
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