Bread price going up

[Sonoftheheir]

Apparently wheat has gone up 40% so everyone’s going to have to pay more for their bread!.... what % of price does the flour cost in a loaf?

Bread price may rise after dire UK wheat harvest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53921121

 

[Hindsight]

Apparently wheat has gone up 40% so everyone’s going to have to pay more for their bread!.... what % of price does the flour cost in a loaf?

Bread price may rise after dire UK wheat harvest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53921121

Here is your answer - arrived in my inbox earlier today.

http://link.ahdb.org.uk/m/1/45178595/p1-b20239-a42c68b216164cac9a73eb71ca11fc98/1/420/13a3b5a7-572f-457d-b76a-17371fa28186

 

[Hampton]

Milling wheat has probably only altered by about 15% over the last 12 months. I sold some milling wheat for £193 for last September movement

 

[Farma Parma]

Apparently wheat has gone up 40% so everyone’s going to have to pay more for their bread!.... what % of price does the flour cost in a loaf?

Bread price may rise after dire UK wheat harvest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53921121

Its only a few pence there was some detailed infor elsewhere on this very subject today cani heck mind where it was tho
There just jumping on the any excuse to make a few more Quid out the job.

 

[watfordfrosty]

7p per loaf IIRC

 

[Farma Parma]

Here is your answer - arrived in my inbox earlier today.

http://link.ahdb.org.uk/m/1/45178595/p1-b20239-a42c68b216164cac9a73eb71ca11fc98/1/420/13a3b5a7-572f-457d-b76a-17371fa28186

Aye thats it ive got same email silly me

 

[Farma Parma]

hard to believe how much of a diff say £10 a ton does too all our bottom lines per ton on the prices of all grains mind.
try explaining that to folks outside of farming & its hard work

 

[egbert]

I'll have a go...

If an 800gr loaf has a small % of water in it - and we'll take it that it's a straight wheat flour job, with nought but a trace of yeast and salt somewhere- I suspect that the loss in milling might well be similar.
(happy to be disabused)
so there's maybe 1250 loaves to the tonne,
and with bread apparently at £1.40/kg for the bread (apparently), that's an average of £1.12p/loaf
and at 1250 loaves to the tonne, the tonne has grossed £1400 retail.*

Getting £1400 worth of bread out of £175 worth (ie 1 tonne) of wheat means there's only 12.5p or so worth of wheat in the loaf

did I get that right?


*And that's the biggie...the 'retail' price.
Ne'er mind everything else along the way...someone has to maintain shiny rate paying premises to market that loaf, and be ready to ditch whatever goes past its prime.

 

[Devil's advocate]

Be interesting to work out the annual average % price increase of feed wheat since 1979.

Then compare it to wages, fuel average weekly spend on leisure etc.

 

[Bogweevil]

Almost a third of the bread bought in Britain - 680,000 tonnes a year - is thrown away - BBC 2012. If it costs more perhaps less will be wasted.

Apparently 350 ears of wheat make a loaf and approximately 1700 loaves of white bread can be produced from 1 ton of wheat.

Last year:

 

[Steevo]

Almost a third of the bread bought in Britain - 680,000 tonnes a year - is thrown away - BBC 2012. If it costs more perhaps less will be wasted.

I would suggest a high proportion of that wasted hasn't even been picked up by a customer in the shop.

 

[Bogweevil]

I'll have a go...

If an 800gr loaf has a small % of water in it - and we'll take it that it's a straight wheat flour job, with nought but a trace of yeast and salt somewhere- I suspect that the loss in milling might well be similar.
(happy to be disabused)
so there's maybe 1250 loaves to the tonne,
and with bread apparently at £1.40/kg for the bread (apparently), that's an average of £1.12p/loaf
and at 1250 loaves to the tonne, the tonne has grossed £1400 retail.*

Getting £1400 worth of bread out of £175 worth (ie 1 tonne) of wheat means there's only 12.5p or so worth of wheat in the loaf

did I get that right?


*And that's the biggie...the 'retail' price.
Ne'er mind everything else along the way...someone has to maintain shiny rate paying premises to market that loaf, and be ready to ditch whatever goes past its prime.

Yes, consistent with what I have read.

Apparently 680,000 tonnes of UK bread, a third of all produced, is wasted, so if the higher price promotes an uncharacteristic thriftiness in the British public the wheat area will decline - horror. Lets hope they use the money saved to eat more cake and biscuits.

 

[Bogweevil]

I would suggest a high proportion of that wasted hasn't even been picked up by a customer in the shop.

Losses in the supply chain would one hope go for stock feed, but alas the lion's share of waste is in the home:

http://www.wrap.org.uk/sites/files/wrap/Household%20food%20waste%20restated%20data%202007-2015%20FINAL.pdf

 

[Steevo]

Losses in the supply chain would one hope go for stock feed, but alas the lion's share of waste is in the home:

http://www.wrap.org.uk/sites/files/wrap/Household%20food%20waste%20restated%20data%202007-2015%20FINAL.pdf

Sorry, I can't see the proportion wasted "in home" vs. "before customer purchase". Am I missing something?

 

[Wombat]

Apparently wheat has gone up 40% so everyone’s going to have to pay more for their bread!.... what % of price does the flour cost in a loaf?

Bread price may rise after dire UK wheat harvest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53921121

Wheat is Feck all in the whole cost of a loaf

Makes a good story, they should promote the fact that the price of wheat has little effect in the cost of bread then it might get across where all the money goes

 

[Bogweevil]

Sorry, I can't see the proportion wasted "in home" vs. "before customer purchase". Am I missing something?

According to WRAP (UK waste authority) 443,000 tones of bread was wasted in the home in 2012, out of the 680,000 tonnes total waste, so 237,000 tonnes wasted in supply chain or other non-domestic premises.

Our village baker, long gone, used to raise pigs on his unsold baked good, but that was 50 years ago before regulations tightened and when there was a local abattoir.

Anyone for toast beer? https://www.toastale.com/

 

[Breakthru]

Apparently wheat has gone up 40% so everyone’s going to have to pay more for their bread!.... what % of price does the flour cost in a loaf?

Bread price may rise after dire UK wheat harvest https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-53921121

It used to be said that the poly bag and logos cost more than the wheat. As a % of the total selling price the wheat flour is relatively insignificant which means the percentage rise in that cost is even less so.
It probably comes down to contract terms that may state everybody in the chain gets 100% markup on their costs so by the time it gets to the shelf everybody involved has made more.

 

[4course]

at this time of year every wheat grower in the land will have their moisture meter (calibrated) to hand so just check your morning slice before toasting

 

[4course]

even after todays downpour your in the field crop is unlikeley to be as high

 

[4course]

middle off the scale ,crusts over 35%